Thomas DIVES [15669]

  General Notes:

Thomas was aged 88 at his death

  Research Notes:

Family lore suggested by William Keith Dives and the Reverend Percival Giel, was that the Dives family descended from a family taking their name from a Normandy town of Dives-sur-Mer (pronounced Deeve) who were part of the Norman invasion.
The Dive ancestor is thought to be Beugelin de Dive, one of William The Conqueror's "Compagnons". The town of Dives-sur-Mer, at the mouth of the river Dives on the Normandy coast, was where William and his invading fleet departed from. There, is a church with a plaque listing these Generals, and Beugelin de Dive appears on it. This list, compiled by the Société Française d'Archéologie, is also in churches in Hastings and in Falaise, Normandy.
William Keith Dives retired to Normandy to research his line, and told his son Martin that this story of the origins of the Dives family name was shared by the family of Richard 'Dicky' Dives, Richard also retired to Normandy.
Ref: M Dives 2015

The Dive connection with William I suggested below is more problematic.
The Dyve Family of Bromham:
William Camden in his Britannia written between 1577 and 1610, states that Gosceline de Dyve came over to England with William the Conqueror (1066 - 1087). F. W. Kuhlicke, in an article in The Bedfordshire Magazine, noted that Camden's scholarship "must be treated with caution". He goes on to note that a Leodar de Dive held land in Northamptonshire in the early 13th century, where the family remained until 1553. That was the year in which Sir Lewis Dyve purchased the Manor of Bowels. He purchased the Manor of Wakes three years later and the Manor of Brayes in 1565 and with it them the greater part of the parish of Bromham, only the second Bromham Manor evading his grasp, falling into the hands of the Boteler family of Biddenham, with whom the Dyves feuded for a number of years at the end of the 16th century.
Sir Lewis was Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire under King Henry VIII (1509 - 1547) in 1544. His father was William Dive and his grandfather Sir John Dive, knighted in 1510 who had also been Sheriff of the two counties. Sir John's father had married Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Wilde of Bromham which seems to be the earliest connection with Bedfordshire and with Bromham in particular. Sir Lewis died in 1592. He was buried in Bromham church where his monument can be seen at the east end of the north aisle.
Sir Lewis' son John was Sheriff of Bedfordshire in 1593 and 1603 and was knighted in the latter year. He died in 1607. His son, born in 1599, was named after his grandfather and became nationally prominent during the first Civil War between King Charles I (16251649) and Parliament. He was captured by parliament in 1645 and all his estates taken from him. He escaped from the Tower of London in 1647 and fled abroad, returning with King Charles II (16601685) and settling in Somerset. His estates were returned and he conveyed them to his son Francis in 1664, dying that same year and being buried at Combehay. Francis Dyve presented a new pulpit to the church and was a Gentleman of the King's Privy Chamber. He diede in the same year as his monarch and left the Bromham estates to his brother Captain Lewis Dyve, aged 53 and living at Wexford in Ireland. He died the year after his brother. The final member of the family to own land in Bromham was another Lewis, named after his father, who was born at Wexford in 1677 and who lived at Bromham from 1700 to 1708. In the latter year he performed an ironic sale of the estate. He was the son of a great Royalist and the estate's buyer was Sir Thomas Trevor (later 1st Baron Trevor of Bromham), grandson of a great parliamentarian, John Hampden. The sale price was £21,394
12/28/2014 Hosted By Bedford Borough Council: http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/CommunityArchives/Bromham/TheDyveFamilyOfBromham.aspx
More on the Dive family: http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/CommunityArchives/Bromham/SirLewisDyve.aspx

  Other Records

1. Misspelt name: Gilbert de Venables.
Boyd Venable in 2019 points out his ancestor Gilbert de Venables is misspelt as Werables on an English language typed list of William the Conqueror's Generals in the Church of Notre Dame Dives-sur-mer.
See correct list
Ref: <http://www.rgcrompton.info/origins/1066info5.html>

Thomas married Sarah BRISTER [15670] [MRIN: 5563] on 28 Jun 1761 in Lingfield SRY. (Sarah BRISTER [15670] was born about 1736 and was buried on 16 Mar 1814 in Lingfield Church SRY.)