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Anthony ALSTON [2652]
(-1660)
Elizabeth COLE [140]
(-Abt 1691)
Daniel ALSTON of Edwardstone [117]
(1639-1694)
Margaret PAINE of Milden [118]

John ALSTON Jnr [4025]
(1664-1742)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Martha CRABB of Wethersfield ESS [5349]

2. Elizabeth [7319]

John ALSTON Jnr [4025]

  • Christened: 4 Dec 1664, Edwardstone SFK
  • Marriage (1): Martha CRABB of Wethersfield ESS [5349] on 24 Mar 1682/83
  • Marriage (2): Elizabeth [7319]
  • Buried: 26 Jun 1742, Edwardstone SFK
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bullet  General Notes:


John sonne of Daniell Alstone & Margarett his wife baptised 4 Dec 1664 Edwardstone. IGI & Edwardstone Parish Transcripts Alstoniana.

He is described as John Alston Snr in this tree this ignores the fact that he was described as Jnr at his son's baptism.

That this John was a farmer of Edwardstone and had these four sons etc is based on the old tree below:
Alstoniana Pg 371

Pedigree of Samuel Alston the elder of Edwardstone in Suffolk Maltster taken in 1745 (the paper is torn but sufficient remains to decipher . .45 and Samuel the father Will was proved in 1754) and of the whole family from Jno.
John Alston (the Ancestor)
John
John Thomas Jacob

Samuel

Samuel Sarah Ann Mary

Thomas
Thomas Grace

Jacob
Mary Jacob John Marth
a Elizabeth Sarah
= = d1746 = = =
Jno Wiske Ann Alston Stansfield Dounie Tiffin

This tree is inconclusive but cannot be ignored for line of names and Edwardstone roots.

That birth or baptism records of 3 of John's sons have not been knowingly found indicate he might have been living away from Edwardstone at some point, or that they are recorded at the same location as his untraced marriage, probably his wife's home?

SUFFOLK POLL, 1702.
Edwardstone - John Alston voted for Ld. Dysart and Sr. Rob. Davers.

SUFFOLK POLL, 1710.
Edwardstone - A John Alston voted for Sir Philip Parker

Edwardstone 1710 Lease Annabells Wood & Priory Down etc

1667 Hearth Tax:
A John Alston was taxed on ? hearths at Great Waldingfield
1669 Hearth Tax:
John Alstan of Gt Waldingfield 3 hearths
1674 Hearth Tax:
John Alston of Gt Waldingfield 3 hearths

Between 1678-80 John Alston was a Church Warden at Edwardstone.

GT. WALDINGFIELD.
Tithe payers 1693.
John Alston and Samuel Alston of Edwardstone.

12 Jun 1711.
John Alston the elder took occupation etc of Grovefield, Thornfields, Bakers Meadow, Rudland's Bottom, from Will Chaplin of Bury John Newman also Jaggard gents. . . . .
Henry Corry Papers (1951) Edwardstone Hall.
Ref:Bury RO 391/72

Bury St Edmunds Quarter Sessions
21 Jan 1711/12
Samuel Alston & John Alston - Being indicted for Petty Larceny and whipt in Open Court are to be discharged paying their food being 6/4d each.
On file 2003
Does this refer to Johns sons ?

bullet  Research Notes:


Edwardstone Vicarage,
1st March, 1898.
Dear Sir,
At last I am able to send you copies of all the Alston baptisms marriages and burials recorded from 1646 to 1760
Our registers only date from 1645 therefore all previous books must have been either lost or destroyed. I had no idea when I first wrote to you that there were so many entries. . . . . I have spent hours and hours in searching the registers and in deciphering the indistinct writing.
I shall not forget about the memorial slabs and the "New House" Believe me,
Yours faithfully,
(Rev.) PAKENHAM WEST.

Edwardstone Vicarage
10 March, 1898.
Dear Sir, . . . . . I think it is most probable that the older Registers were destroyed in Cromwell's time. No doubt they contained many interesting records of your ancestors.
I enclose copies of inscriptions on memorial slabs, which were removed to the Lady Chapel about the year 1878 ; formerly they lay in the nave and side aisle but they are less likely to be damaged in their present position.
With regard to the New House I have made many enquiries.
It was not Edwardstone Hall because the Brands occupied that house and it is mentioned on their tombs in the Church. Nor the Grove which was a large house built last century by Colonel Waring during the lifetime of an old parishioner's (aged 85) grandfather and pulled down about 70 years ago by Richard Waring. (It was in fact the Grove ELF 2001) Nor the Lodge which is a small modern house so that I have come to the conclusion that the New House was either Edwardstone House or a smaller house about 500 yards nearer to Boxford.
May yet be able to find out which of these was built by Isaac Alston.
Believe me, yours faithfully,
(Rev.) PAKENHAM WEST.
Alstoniana Pg 376/7

Comments on John Alston [4025] son of Daniel & Margaret:
That John's parents are Samuel and Mary was suggested by Dr E L Fenn in 1898 but not accepted by Cresswell, or E L Fenn in 2001 who conjectures that the biblical christian names are more likely to have come down from Daniel and Margaret and Martha was used for a two daughters by son Jacob and a daughter by son Samuel.

John sonne of Daniell Alstone & Margarett his wife baptised 4 Dec 1664 Edwardstone. IGI & Edwardstone Parish Transcripts Alstoniana.

John is described as John Jnr as father to some of his children? Perhaps Jnr in relation to John [164] the cousin to differentiate the John Alston's in that generation, there being only a 9 yr age difference between [4025 & [164] ?

A John Allston was born 1666 Newton IGI no parents detailed but a wife shown Elizabeth Harris.

John Alston snr is named in an Indenture dated 1728 Ref 391 Corry Papers unlisted & unnumbered, and a mortgage to a James Firman of Stoke dated 1728.

Sir Henry Corry Papers (1951)
Bury RO Ref 391
Unlisted unnumbered.

391 Unumbered Miscellaneous 1720 - 1739
Indenture signed John Alston elder dated 30 July 1728.
Indenture signed John Alston elder mortgage L.150 witness Jas Vanderzee 24 August 1728.
Indenture signed John Alston elder and John Alston junior lease and re-lease 23 July 1731.
Indenture signed John Alston elder and John Alston junior 24 July 1731.
Bond to perform signed John Alston elder and John Alston junior.

391/72. 12 June 1711.
John Alston the elder took occupation etc of: Grovefield Rudlands Bottom, Thornfields, Bakers Meadow, from William Chaplin of Bury, John Newman also Jaggard, Gents.

391/36 10 October 1797.
Indent and mortgage? Walter Waring and Elizabeth Serles of various lands buildings etc..
1. Various sheds yards hay house barn land previously in the tenure and occupation of John Alston the elder before that William Cooper.
2. Fields enclosures arable land meadow and pastures formerly in the occupation of John Alston his heirs etc called Grove Field, Thornfield, Bakers Meadow, Rudland's Bottom, containing 21 acres thereabouts. Previously in the tenure also of Henry Lever after John Payson? Since Ann Butcher now but Woods.
Also mentioned Lords Crofts which abutted's slight land formerly George Alston's to the North called Sloads (Hoads?).

391 Unumbered Miscellaneous 1742 - 1796 B5 Pt 1 or 2. Marked 11 on top. (21 May 2001)
Not Catalogued dated 8 Jun 1742
Indenture and mortgage John Alston eldest son and heir of John Alston the elder late of Edwardstone deceased and John Baines also Grimwood Clerk of Dedham involving:
1 Lords Crofts three houses and land between Windmill Green On the East and land late Richard Spences on the West and South called Sturmins and land late Gregory Alston to the North called Sloads.
2 And also the said lands called Sloads barns sheds etc formerly in the occupation of William Cooper and then of the said John Alston the elder.
3 And also the lands etc previously in the tenure and occupation of the said John Alston the elder called Grovefield, Thornfield, Bakers Meadow, Rudlands Bottom 21 acres.
4 Peppercorn rent 500 years lease.
5 Price 231.
Thornfield: five acres lies between woody ground late of Mrs Pretty and Priory Down on the East, and arable land called Great Reynalls on the West and Little Reynalls and Grovefield towards the North, and Annabells Wood and lands in the occupation of John Kinningall in the South.
Grovefield: seven acres lying between the land of Philip Goimer? on the East and the lane? leading from Edwardstone to Little Waldingfield in the West and North. The South head abutteth on a meadow in the tenure of Philip Goimer, Mrs Pretty's woody ground, Priory Down and Thornfield aforesaid.
Bakers Meadow: five acres of mowing ground which encloses Rudlands Bottom two acres between the lands of Haat? Newman and Roger Scarlin in the North West Haat? Newman in the West and. . . . .

The Henry Corry Papers (1951) from Edwardstone Hall were removed from the Bury RO some years ago, and the researcher (E L Fenn 2011) has not been able to access them. It is felt that they may throw some light on the correct pedigree of John Alston [164] and his family

Shirley Taylor of Rogers Farm writes 2004: after researching Suffolk. Essex and Aylesbury Archives and finding very little on the house we feel that they must have a pile of documents Freddie did admit to this when we bought the farm from him We looked in the Aylesbury Archives as we think Lord Howe may have had a connection with Siam Hall (he certainly did with Rogers) and all his documents have been lodged there. If necessary Pat may go back there and do some more research amongst his documents

Edwardstone 1742, a John Alston is buried, this has been taken to be John Alston [4025]

Edwardstone 1742 sale of lands & houses owned John Snr by heir John Jnr.

A John Alston died 1 Feb 1731/2 at Stoke by Nayland Could this be John Alston [8188].

Image Courtesy Mike Burn - 2014


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John married Martha CRABB of Wethersfield ESS [5349] [MRIN: 3789], daughter of William CRABB [26812] and Unknown, on 24 Mar 1682/83. (Martha CRABB of Wethersfield ESS [5349] was born about 1653 in Wethersfield ESS, christened on 17 Apr 1653 in Wethersfield ESS, died on 20 Sep 1728 in Edwardstone SFK and was buried on 3 Mar 1727/28 in Edwardstone SFK.)


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John next married Elizabeth [7319] [MRIN: 3788]. (Elizabeth [7319] was buried on 10 Sep 1683 in Edwardstone SFK.)


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