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Dr Robert LIVEING M.D. [101]
Adelaide Mary Dorothea HAWKER [1554]
Reuben Mason VARNUM [11202]
Procinbia TYLER [14774]
(Abt 1840-1913)
Lieut Col R.A. Charles Hawker LIVEING C.M.G. D.S.O. [1556]
Mabel Weston VARNUM [7056]

Lt Cmdr. Robert George LIVEING R.N. [7057]


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1. Manon Diana KER-SEYMER [14794]

Lt Cmdr. Robert George LIVEING R.N. [7057]

  • Born: 18 Apr 1905, Woolwich KEN
  • Baptised: 18 May 1905, Woolwich KEN
  • Marriage (1): Manon Diana KER-SEYMER [14794] on 9 Jan 1931 in St Mary Abbots Kensington London.
  • Died: 16 Feb 1968, Alverstoke HAM aged 62

bullet  General Notes:

Robert George Liveing
Birth date18 Apr 1905
Baptism date18 May 1905
PlaceWoolwich Kent
TypeArmed Forces
Father's first name(s)Charles Liveing
Mother's first name(s)Mabel
Father's occupationCaptain R A
Residence102 Herbert Road
SourceBaptism Register St George's Garrison Church, Woolwich, Kent:

Document type:Baptisms Birth Ref Jun Qtr 1905 Woolwich 1d 1255 BDM

Sub Lieut., R G Liveing sailed from London to Hongkong departed 15 Dec 1927, on the P.O. ship Kyber
Ref: findmypast 2011

Robert's Commanding Officer on the Hong Kong Station was the highly decorated submariner Capt William Richmond Fell CMG, CBE, DSC, RN. Fell was born in NZ in 1897 to an important early settler family; he joined the Royal Navy in 1914, serving on surface vessels for the duration. In 1918 he joined the burgeoning submarine service, where he remained, becoming the longest serving submarine officer, for which he earned the OBE. In 1939 and due to retire, WW2 called him back to fame, a DSC for operations in the Nth Atlantic, successful action against the Tirpitz, then Command of 14th Submarine Flotilla in the Pacific against the Japanese and a CBE. Finally retiring Capt R.N in 1947 he was later awarded a CMG for operations clearing the Suez Canal.
Ref: W V Fell - 2019

In Oct 1929 Robert was the Editor of the 6th Vol. of "Light Airs" a publication for the amusement of personel of the IV Submarine Flotilla, then stationed in Hong Kong. It is obvious that he enjoyed the role, see his poem "A Tragedy of Youth" page 10, perhaps he had an ability for writing ? "Light Airs" is under the Books button on this website.

Robert may have been known as George in the Service see Page 7 "Light Airs" under Books button on this website.

1929 Robert is registered as a shareholder in the Gt Western Railway.

Liveing - Bickmore.
On January 9, 1931 at St Mary Abbot's, Kensington, Lt R G Liveing, R.N., son of Col C H Liveing, CMG, DSO, and Mrs Liveing, to Manon, widow of Lt N A Bickmore, R.N., Daughter of Major and Mrs Vere Ker-Seymer.
Ref: Unidentified Newspaper Report

A Gosport Case.
All four prisoners appeared in the last charge, that of breaking and entering Kingswood, Broderick Avenue, Gosport, and stealing articles valued at 68 17s 6d the property of Lt Cmdr Robert George Liveing. Lt Cmdr Liveing said that on November 15 his house was forcibly entered, and among the missing articles were jewellery, a wireless set, an electric iron, and a revolver. Some of these articles were now in court.
Sgt Southwell of the Hampshire Constabulary described what he saw at the house, and how he later recovered certain of the missing articles.
A nine years old schoolboy said that he had found the revolver in Parkstone Avenue, where it was lying in a tuft of grass.
This completed the hearing and the men were committed for trial on this charge also, and will be kept in custody
Ref Hampshire Telegraph 10 December 1937.
The four were soldiers they pleaded guilty and were jailed January 1938.

Bus Driver Fined.
Naval Officer In Gosport Collision.
We consider the onus of the accident rests upon the defendant, who apparently was not looking out, said Col R A F
Sloan-Stanley, presiding at the Gosport Police Court this morning, when imposing a fine of 1 on Walter John Bedenham, of 14 Herbert Rd, Gosport an omnibus driver, for driving without due care and attention.
Evidence was given by Lt Cmdr Robert George Liveing, of Kingswood, Broderick Ave, Alverstoke, to the effect that on April 23 he saw the defendant's bus pulled up at the stopping place near the Ritz Cinema, and turned his car in front of it to enter a the car park by the theatre. Pedestrians on the pavement caused him to bring his car to a standstill and whilst he was stationary the bus struck him broadside.
Defendant, who was represented by Mr AG Glanville, said he had moved about 4 yards from the stopping place when the car suddenly appeared in front of him, and he had no time in which to avoid a collision.
Defendant's version of the incident was borne out by Martha Perry, an elderly widow, of Joseph Street, who said she was standing on the pavement.
The bench decided not to endorse defendant's licence.
Portsmouth Evening News 10 May 1938

A history of Robert's residential address's via the English telephone directories.

Liveing Lt R G R.N. Segenworth Farm hse Titchfield 28
Ancestry: Norwich Cambridge Essex etc Phone Book 1932/33/34/35/36

Liveing Lt Comdr R G R.N. Kingswood Brodrick ave Gosport 8647
Ancestry: Bristol Plymouth Southampton etc Phone Book 1936/37/38/39

Liveing Lt Comdr R G R.N. 36 Southsea ter Portsmouth 6382
Ancestry: Bristol Plymouth Southampton etc Phone Book 1941

Liveing Lt Comdr R G R.N. Kingswood Brodrick ave Gosport 89497
Ancestry: Bristol Plymouth Southampton etc Phone Book 1946/49/50/51/52/53/54/55/56/57/58

Liveing Lt Comdr R G R.N. Westerhouse ave Alverstoke Gosport 8452
Ancestry: Bristol Plymouth Southampton etc Phone Book 1938/39/46/49/50/51/52/53

Liveing Lt Comdr R G R.N. Kingswood Brodrick ave Gosport 83556
Ancestry: Bristol Plymouth Southampton etc Phone Book 1960/61/62/64/65/66/67/68/69/70
Some listed under M Liveing?)

Robert G Liveing
Death Age: 62
Birth Date: abt 1906
Registration Date: Jan 1968
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 695

Liveing Robert George of 10 Brodrick Ave Alverstoke Hants., died 11 Jan 1968 Probate London 4 June 1968. 16660.
National Probate Calendar

bullet  Research Notes:

Image from the 1928-1929 Album of William Richmond Fell, by Kind Permission of W.V. Fell - 2019

Ref: History of Hong Kong


bullet  Other Records

1. Census: England, 2 Apr 1911, Frith End Hse Nr Farnham SRY. Robert is described as a son aged 5 born Woolwich KEN

2. Robert George Liveing: On & off duty activities, 1920's, Hong Kong.
Robert and friends from IV Submarine Flotilla then stationed in Hong Kong mainly to control pirate activities around the South China coast, until the war with the Japanese.

The pictures show off Robert (left with binoculars) on the deck of a submarine, an off duty sail and a picnic at coves (Plover Cove) around Hong Kong Island

Robert's Commanding Officer was at that time the distinguished Submariner, William Richmond Fell R.N. Fell's grandson W V Fell remembers conversation with his grandfather:
"The flotilla seems to have spent quite some time based in Weihaiwei, then still a British base, but the main hideout of the pirates was in Bias, now Daya Bay just north of HK. One of my grandfather's photographs is captioned 'pirate junks'. The advantage that the submarines must have had would have been the ability to observe unseen the moment when innocent trading and fishing activities metamorphosed into piracy; and then intervene."
William Richmond Fell is seen in the right foreground in the righthand picture.
Images and Data from the 1928-1929 Album of William Richmond Fell, by Kind Permission of W.V. Fell - 2019


Robert married Manon Diana KER-SEYMER [14794] [MRIN: 3709], daughter of Horace Vere Clay KER-SEYMER [14796] and Diana CREYKE [14797], on 9 Jan 1931 in St Mary Abbots Kensington London. (Manon Diana KER-SEYMER [14794] was born on 20 Jan 1903 in Chelsea LND MDX and died on 18 Dec 1970 in Alverstoke HAM.)

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