William Robert Francis LIVEING [449]

  General Notes:

William was at the family home in London on the 1881 Census night, aged 15, occ Undergraduate University of Oxford.

Marriage ref Sept Qtr 1894 Maldon 4a 750 BDM

William is listed on the roll of "Old Westminsters":
Liveing, William Robert Francis, youngest son of Edward Liveing, MD FRCP of Queen Anne Street, Cavendish Square, London, by his first wife Frances, only daughter of Lieutenant Henry Torlesse, RN., Police Magistrate at Hobart Tasmania; b Feb 9, 1886; adm Oct 2 1878; left May 1883; married August 16, 1894, Harriet Amelia, eldest daughter of Thomas's Flick, of Burnham, Essex.

Liveing William Robert Francis Solicitor & Commissioner for Oaths
Trefusis Manor Rd Forrest Hill SE
Post Office Directory 1908 London County Suburbs.

1919 & 1932 Robert is registered as a shareholder in the Gt Western Railway

Liveing Archive: Images 3934 - 3937
W.R. F. Liveing,
Solicitor,
The Cherries,
St. Briavels,
S.O. Gloucester
21 August 1928
Enclos (ie enclosures?)
My dear Eddie
I now enclose full copies of all the entries in the Hadleigh Registers as furnished by the Rector together with copies of his letters containing his views on various points - for your digestion and consideration.
The principal thing we have to establish is the paternity of Rob^t Liveing I of Harwich and if possible to identify the John Lyving baptised on Apr 19, 1618 as his Father.
I have been of course working on the assumption that a John Living of Hadleigh was his father as recorded in Aunt Ambrose's pedigree you mentioned. I will prosecute any further search you may think to be in any way likely to be helpful.
Trusting you and Emily are well and with our kind love to you both
Ever your affectionate brother
W.R F. Liveing

London Metropolitan Archives:
LEE AND PEMBERTONS [SOLICITORS]
Catalogue Ref. ACC/1887
Access Conditions: Because of the private nature of some of the correspondence letter books containing material less than 100 years old may not, before 2034, be consulted without the written permission of the depositors.
016280 W. R. F. Liveing decd Dec 1946
Ref A2A
William was a solicitor, was this his firm?

Sydenham 257 Liveing WRF Solr & Commisioner Trefusis Forrest Hill
Ancestry: London Phone Book 1906/07/08/09/10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17

Hornsey 1949 Liveing WRF Solr & Commr 3 Holly ter West Hill Highgate N6
Ancestry: London Phone Book 1918/19/20/21/22/23

Londn Wall 7600 Liveing WRF Solr & Commr 65 Basinghall st EC2
Ancestry: London Phone Book 1911/12/13/14/15/16/17/18/19/20/21

1939 Register
8 Hillside Road , Watford R.D., Hertfordshire, England
William R FLiveing09 Feb 1866Solicitor RetiredMarried
Harriet A Liveing23 May 1867Unpaid Domestic DutiesMarried

Liveing William Robert Francis of Waverley 8 Hillside Road Radlett Herts died 11 December 1944 Probate Llandudno 9 March to Harriet Amelia Liveing widow and George Lawrence Stewart solicitor
Effects L8193 8s10d
Ref: National Probate Calendar.

  Other Records

1. Census: England, 2 Apr 1871, 52 Queen Ann St Cavendish Sq Marylebone MDX. William is described as a son aged 5 born Marylebone MDX

2. Census: England, 3 Apr 1881, 52 Queen Ann St Cavendish Sq Marylebone MDX. William was described as a son aged 15 an Oxford Undergraduate born Marylebone LON

3. William R F Liveing: As a child and various documents.

4. William Robert Francis Liveing: Safe Passage, 6 Aug 1889.

5. Census: England, 31 Mar 1901, 24 Carnholm Rd ? Lewisham LND. William was described as head of house aged 35 Solicitor born Marylebone LON

6. Census: England, 2 Apr 1911, Trefusis, Manor Rd Forest Hill. William is recorded as head of a house of 9 rooms aged 45 married a solicitor working on his own account born 52 Queen Anne St Marylebone LON

7. William Robert F Liveing: Support of the War effort, 1915.

8. William Robert F Liveing: Letter to his brother Edward, 21 Aug 1928, St Briavels GLS.
Liveing Archive: Images 3934 - 3937

W.R. F. Liveing,
Solicitor,
The Cherries,
St. Briavels,
S.O. Gloucester
21 August 1928
Enclos (ie enclosures?)
My dear Eddie
I now enclose full copies of all the entries in the Hadleigh Registers as furnished by the Rector together with copies of his letters containing his views on various points - for your digestion and consideration.
The principal thing we have to establish is the paternity of Rob^t Liveing I of Harwich and if possible to identify the John Lyving baptised on Apr 19, 1618 as his Father.
I have been of course working on the assumption that a John Living of Hadleigh was his father as recorded in Aunt Ambrose's pedigree you mentioned. I will prosecute any further search you may think to be in any way likely to be helpful.
Trusting you and Emily are well and with our kind love to you both
Ever your affectionate brother
W.R F. Liveing

9. William Robert F Liveing: Letter to his brother Edward, 21 Aug 1928, St Briavels GLS.
Liveing Archive: Images 3928 - 3929

W.R.F. Liveing,
Solicitor,
The Cherries,
St. Briavels,
S.O. Gloucester
21 August 1928
My dear Eddie,
Herewith I enclose my cheque for L3.5.0. in the payment of half years interest due 2^nd July on your share of Walfords mortgage less tax & 1/- expenses.
Re Pedigree
You will be interested to hear I have obtained a great deal of further information. First of all I had the Saffron Waldron registers searched from the commencement to 1700. They are revealed nothing except the following marriage 14 May 1655 Robert LIVIN to Cath Seamer both of Clavering. Clavering is a small village near Manuden where Aunt Mary lived. Secondly I had the Hadleigh registers searched from the commencement 1558-1750 and they reveal records of a great number of the Liveing family. Uncle Henrys search only covers the period from 1689-1800. I will send you a copy of all the entries I have obtained from the Rector & Rural Dean of Hadleigh Rev M N Bate.
Before going seriously to work on the fresh materials I have I should like to know how far back & during what period the Harwich registers have been searched. I am in some little difficulty about identifying the John Liveing father of Robert Liveing I. He is as you know described in Anne Ambroses pedigree as of
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Hadleigh. I find in the Register of baptisms at Hadleigh "John Lyving son to (blank) ye saddler April 19 1618." This would have made him 66 in 1684 the date of the birth of Rob^t Liveing I of Harwich.
This John Lyving does not appear to have settled in Hadleigh as there is no record of his marriage or burial there.
There are two entries in the burial registers at Hadleigh as under :
July 7, 1624 John Living son to George.
March 30, 1630 John Living son to George
The above named John Lyving bapt^d Apr 19, 1618 was undoubtedly the son of George Living Saddler whose burial is recorded on Nov 29, 1639.
I think the 2 John Livings who were buried 7 July 1624 and 30 March 1630 were the sons of George living whose burial is entered as on 11 October 1610 and not the sons of George Living ( Saddler ) when you survey complete lists in front of you will see what I mean and can give me your opinion.
Shall I have the Harwich Registers searched and if so during what periods?
M L etc? for ……
Your affectionate brother
W R F Liveing

10. William Robert F Liveing: was a keen gardener: Radlett HRT.

William married Harriet Amelia FLICK [450] [MRIN: 128], daughter of Thomas FLICK of Burnham ESS [8338] and Harriet STAGGS [14783], on 16 Aug 1894 in Burnham ESS. (Harriet Amelia FLICK [450] was born on 23 May 1867 in Burnham-on-Crouch ESS, died on 26 Jun 1945 and was buried in Radlett HRT.)