The Kings Candlesticks - Family Trees
James ORGEE [11198]
Frances HODGES [22497]
(Abt 1763-1854)

Louisa ORGEE [6268]


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1. Capt William LIVEING [136]

Louisa ORGEE [6268]

  • Born: 29 Aug 1799
  • Baptised: 29 Jul 1811, St George Hanover Sq
  • Marriage (1): Capt William LIVEING [136] on 13 Sep 1820 in St George Hanover Sq. Westminster LND
  • Died: 26 Feb 1865, Clifton Villas Maida Hill MDX aged 65

bullet  General Notes:

These baptism extracts seem at odds but may indicate two children, the latter has been adopted.
Louisa Orgee
Baptism 30 Sep1798
PlaceSt Marylebone London
Father's James Orgee
Mother's first nameFrances
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Birth 29 Aug1799
Baptism 29 Jul 1811
ParishSt George, Hanover Square
Father's first nameJames
Mother's first nameFrances
Westminster Baptisms

Marriage 14 Sep1820
ParishSt George, Hanover Square
Groom's parishSt Nicholas
Bride's parishSt George Hanover Square
Westminster Marriages

Sponsor to family T H Fenn
A Louisa Liveing death registered ref Mar Qtr 1865 Kensington 1a 18 BDM

Liveing - February 26, at Clifton Villas, Maida-Hill, Louisa, the wife of Captain Liveing R.N.. Aged 65
Ref: Western Daily Press Bristol 3 March 1865. Also Dublin Evening Mail Friday, 3 March 1865.

The Will of John Thorogood Esq. [10714], of Maida-hill, St Johns Wood was proved on the 21st ult. by the executors and trustees, William Liveing, Esq. (The testator's brother-in-law), the Rev John Ambrose, and John Thompson, Esq. Lincoln's Inn Fields. Mr Thorogood, who died on the 29th of September last, a widower, had executed his will in 1858, bequeathing his estate, consisting of leasehold and house property, money, etc., with the exception of a few legacies to some relatives and personal friends, between and his sister-in-law, Mrs Louisa Liveing, and his niece, Mrs Elizabeth Thorogood Ambrose, under certain directions, appointing these two ladies residuary legatees. There are legacies left to his servants, and to his faithful housekeeper a weekly allowance for life, with some furniture; also a legacy of L50 to the Girls School of Industry, Church Street, Paddington.
Ref: The London Illustrated News 2 November 1861 page 441 issue 1115.


bullet  Other Records

1. Louisa Orgee: Letters to her daughter Elizabeth Ambrose, 30 May 1859-27 Jul 1859, Clifton Villas Maida Hill MDX.
Liveing Archive: Image 14 CD 24 Oct 2010
Old Thorogood" (written at top of first page by EHT Liveing?)
Monday evening
May 30th 1859
My darling Betty,
I am so sorry I was prevented writing to your Aunt Ambrose, and also to you today, but Lucy Walker came to us on Saturday and much wished us to walk with her to Mrs. Moore's and to look at some houses on our way which we did, and we did not get back to call on your uncle until a quarter past four, he was, and said he was so much better that I did not go to see him in the morning before we went to Kensington, which made him very unamiable indeed for unfortunately he did not sleep well last night, and had had only Mr Pope to see, he had no one to care for him except Sarah and that she waited upon him from pure affection, and that he had not a relation in the world, and that no doubt people said oh let the old man die, so they did not care to come to see him, and he said to me you never send of a morning to enquire how I am, I said no sir because I generally come myself, then in conversation he said to me, about some of the Parish appointments, are only in a year etc thats a hundred a year and I laughed and said and fifty for me I suppose, he then said you have as much or more than you merit - so dear what think you of all this, I think I see through it, but time will show, but really I should advise you to come up again and see him as soon as you can for he certainly grows weaker - and sometimes looks very languid and poorly. Sarah says he was very ill this morning - and passed a very bad night - as I told you in my former note, he always speaks of you as his dear Betty etc etc ?
How very sorry we were to hear from a note Robert had from Tom of your Aunt Ambrose's accident. I was in hopes I should have had a note from you ere this filling us all particulars, for we are wishing so much to know how she is getting on, poor thing.
It is fixed for Robert and Lucy to be married on Saturday week, only ten to be present on account of the very recent death of Walkie, (parent of Lucy?) not even Annie and Isabella , it is a sad dis-appointment to them & they have bought their dresses but it cannot be helped - There will be Mr & Mrs Moore - Uncle Henry and Miss Walker (Lucy's elder sister) Lucy and Robert, Papa and me, Mrs Moore's son ( ? ) - who the tenth is I do not know - both Lucy and Robert sincerely regret it must be so limited, she particularly regrets she cannot have your company. I was to give her very kindest love and tell you so. I trust dear John's cold is better and that you are quite well - thank you for the ( ? ) of this ( ?? )
Tuesday Your uncle is better to day, has passed a good night, therefore not quite so bitter this morning desires his love to you - in which dear Papa and myself join. I had a note from Anna this morning and poor dear Mary is with you, our love to her and hope the change of air may take away her cold -
I scarcely ever see Mrs Hitchard? Emma sometimes - hoping to hear from you my dearest child believe me as ever your loving and affect Mother
Louisa Liveing

Liveing Archive: Image Letter 16 a b
7 Clifton Villas
July 27 / 59
My darling Betty
I have just returned from shopping, I have been to five shops and got the best match for your silk I possibly could, when you write to say you have received it, be sure you tell me what you really think of it. I should say it is most probably better than you could get in Ipswich for I have looked at so many in the different shops, I have bought a
Page 2.
yard and 3qtr as I thought you could have the band folded to form the point at the back if you wished it, what a shame to be so careless and make it so much too narrow across the chest could you not get some more of the silk and have it made properly at (sic) once I sen d you back the pattern you sent me, but I have been thinking at some other time if I could use it with a band with a mixture of shaded or spots or some fancy band to match the
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the flounces, you must excuse this hasty scrawl to save post - do not fear darling that I have fatigued myself I have taken my time and the walk has done me good, I was very poorly this morning - and dear you told me in your last note I was to get your print from the Art Union1 but you did not say "What" do not forget to tell me and send me a line by return of post that I may know you have the band and how you like it
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Papa quite well, your Uncle feels weak and faint from the hot weather "John does not" he unites with us in kindest love Anna is coming to stay with us when Capt Howard sails the end of the week I believe, Lucy and Robert send their love Tom and Maria are to be with them tonight to go early tomorrow to the Crystal Palace, Sarah Beaumont called last evening she had been dining with (sic) and this morning Mr Beaumont called on me he had been calling on them
? am my best beloved darling
Your affect and loving mother
Louisa Liveing
1. ART-UNION OF LONDON, A society established 1836 "to aid in extending the love of the Arts of Design within the United Kingdom, and to give encouragement to artists beyond that afforded by the patronage of individuals."


Louisa married Capt William LIVEING [136] [MRIN: 2080], son of Commander Thomas LIVEING R N [230] and Harriet HARROLD [231], on 13 Sep 1820 in St George Hanover Sq. Westminster LND. (Capt William LIVEING [136] was born on 29 Oct 1791, baptised on 31 Oct 1794 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS, died on 12 Jun 1870 in 7 Clifton Villas Warwick Rd. Maida Hill MDX and was buried in Paddington Cemetery.)

bullet  Marriage Notes:

Marriage by Lic. William is recorded as a batchelor of the Parish of Harwich, Louisa a spinster of Parish of St George Hanover Sq. Witness's were John Thorogood, William Thorogood,
Martha Cook, Maria Steuart

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