Fourth Generation 
8. Capt Robert FENN [198], son of Simon FENN [4546] and Elizabeth UNDERWOOD [4547], was baptised on 2 Oct 1785 in Coddenham SFK, died on 27 Mar 1844 in Coddenham SFK aged 58, and was buried on 3 Apr 1844 in Coddenham SFK. The cause of his death was dropsy.
General Notes:
Robert farmed Valley Farm Coddenham from 1806, when he replaces his father, now deceased, Simon Fenn on the Coddenham Parish Tax assessments, "Valley Farm" was valued at £160 . Valley Farm was held in Leasehold from Rev John Longe, who inherited the land from the Rev Nicholas Bacon.
Robert is named as son and executor in his Fathers Will, and is legatee to all the residue household furniture, plate, linen, china, stock of liquors, farming stock live and dead, crops of corn, hay, stover, grain, seeds, etc and the occupation and use of the farm lease (Valley Farm)
A letter from Rev John Longe to his solicitor James Wenn dated 27 Aug 1807, instructs that the lease be transferred to Robert "from Michaelmas last" on the same terms and conditions (ref. HA24/50/19/3.21 Wenn died aged 67 in Aug 1834).
The researcher of this family history has resisted the urge to insert opinion and conjecture into the notes on departed family members but for Robert his 2 x Gt Grandfather, the situation is different.
On the 200th anniversary (2017) of these unfortunate matters below, much of the life of Robert Fenn is now revealed after 20 plus years of research, and a scathing appraisal by his mother-in-law, Harriet Liveing (Snr).
Robert (aged 28) married Harriet Liveing in 1813, in 1817 he relinquished his lease of Valley Farm and sold up his farm assets. On or about that time Harriet returned to her family in Harwich permanently, and Robert disappeared from family records.
For many years the search for Robert and his story has gone on, this year it is now as complete as can be reasonably be expected, thanks to the Liveing Archive, a trove of information.
Robert is accused by his mother-in-law of being an adulterer, a drinker, and a squanderer of his money, her disapproval would have been palpable, she is judgmental but not a fool. However Elizabeth Goodwin (Roberts sister) appears quite clear from her remarks quoted by Harriet, that she sees Harriet (Snr) as instrumental in the marriage breakup. Harriet (Jnr) for her part does not appear a strong character physically or emotionally, it is little wonder the marriage collapsed in some 4 years. The Liveing's had money, a fact no doubt not lost on Robert, when contemplating marriage.
Given the mores of the Regency era (The Age of Scandal), Robert may have taken the view along with his Cavalry friends and "pot companions" that his behaviour as a bachelor could continue after marriage, a view not unknown to this day ! This is somewhat confirmed in a letter below by Ellen Stuart dated 9 June 1813 suggesting young men in the country should seek domestic pleasures, rather than gatting about . . . . .
I suspect he may have been slow to realise that his view was unacceptable to his wife, let alone his mother-in-law, whatever the shame.
The Letter.
Liveing Archive 128a-d LT11
In another hand: "May 28, 1833 Mr Fenn ill and applies for money 5 pounds sent by T L Mrs Fenn at Nayland unwell" Postmarked: Harwich May 28 1833. Calculation on front sheet totaling £201.11 shillings.
Mrs John Ambrose
Copford
near Colchester
Essex
post paid
May 28, 1833
My dear Julia1,
I have delayed writing till I fear that you may be uneasy so will put off no longer - we are heartily thankful that you are able to report so well of yourself - but I beg that you will not be unmindful, that care is still necessary - if you exert yourself all will be undone - and you may soon be as bad as ever therefore if as Mr Haynes often reminded you - if you value health and life - act cautiously - and do not exert yourself much - for fear of the ill consequences, remember if you do it will be at the peril of your life - I recd a letter from Catherine this morning written by Harriets desire, as I suppose she was not able to write herself - she says that Harriet caught cold on Thursday from sitting in a draft and brought on rheumatism attended by some degree of fever - but that Edward hoped she would be better tomorrow - and added that I should hear again shortly - I partly expected her last night - but had made almost sure of seeing her tonight, so shortsighted are we - she had been much indisposed from influenza for some time before she left us - and we hope the change of air would have carried off her cough - last Sunday was a week, a letter from Stowmarket was addressed to her here - and thought it advisable to open it - which we would not do till after church thinking the contents would annoy us - it came from Mr Hall's a Butcher at Haughley - written by advice of Mrs Goodwin2 thinking it proper Mrs Fenn should know how ill Mr Fenn was having been confined to his bed for three weeks from rheumatism and that his legs were in a bad state and it was thought he would not get the better of - and also to apprise Mrs Fenn of his unfortunate circumstances - that he had nothing to depend on but the profits of his school - and that medical attendance etc etc was very expensive and if Mrs Fenn could afford him some pecuniary assistance it would be gratefully and thankfully received - and then followed an abundance of praises - "I have known Mr Fenn intimately from his first residing at Haughley, having had a family under his tuition - and for the last
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few months Mr Fenn has been a lodger in my house - and whatever may have been his failings he has always conducted himself respectably moreover I have always found him to be a person of the strictest veracity and integrity - and possessing inwardly the best of morals indeed no one of his friends but thinks him an object worthy their commiseration" - this is too gross to write to people - or rather to a wife who has so much cause to lament his directly contrary character no doubt that he is a pot companion - my poor Harriet I dread her knowing this, her nerves are so shattered from a former account of him - added to her ill-health I don't know how she will stand under it all - your F - wrote a cheque for five pounds - and I wrote under it to Mrs Goodwin - that Mr Hall's had written by her advice - and that he had in consequence of Mr F's bad health sent 5 pounds to her to manage prudently the expenditure - being afraid to send it directly to him thinking it would be squandered as all he ever possessed had been - and that he must not expect any more from him nor would have any more - that his wife had no money only what came out of my pocket - as she had placed one of her sons out for whom she had to pay a large portion of what her Uncle left annually - besides his clothes pocket money and washing - and that it was an indefensible duty to make provision for the completions of his studies after his time had expired - I enquired respecting the money he came too at his mother's death - if he was without - it must be because he had squandered it as he had done what ever he had before I requested a line to know that she got the cheque - and at the same time to say whether Mr F was better - I also said that Harriet had been in ill health for more than 12 month and was then from home in the hope that the change of air might be beneficial that of course she knew not of the . . .cept of Mr Hall's letter - which I was sure would hurt her very much and add to her indisposition - yesterday morning a letter came from her in reply - "with thanks in her Br[othe]r's name for the reasonable relief" you say it is the last assistance he must expect from you - what then is to be done he has no one else that can do but very little for him - no one but myself and we have a family - from whom we cannot withhold assistance - there is only one other to apply to that is his parish - and they will not do anything till they are satisfied that Mrs Fenn's Uncle did not provide for her - as well as her children - which information I shall be in possession in a few days" - so I suppose they have sent
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for a copy of Uncles will - she goes on "I was informed through one of your family that Mr Betts left Mrs F 20003 - the same sum to the children - if that is true - surely it can't be no particular consequence to her to assist my Br[othe]r with a small sum now and then - if he had not been afflicted I would not have troubled you - I trust the time is not far distant when if both are spared things will assume a difference full more to the comfort of both parties" - she must allude to one or both our deaths - I don't know how this comfortable full is to come forth else - when this sad tale is told to Harriet she shall hear our advice at once - as her husband's affairs we rarely talk of - as we are careful not to wound her feelings more than cannot be helped - we shall advise, that when we die, if he must have a part of her money - to allow him such a sum - for as sure as he can finger the whole - the whole will go - as the former has done - the letter abounds with falsehoods - he pretends that he did not know but his wife was coming back in a few weeks - and that he did not know that all her clothes were taken away until after she had left him several days - and of course they must have been sent away before - I wrote a home? reply - for as we were falsely accused I had a right to clear ourselves - I told her that nothing was done clandestinely that she had not many clothes to bring - and that all she possessed he brought away with her to Shotley - and then left her to the mercies of strangers in a dark stormy night in the month of February to cross the water with his child only three years old that I wondered who could discover the aff[ectio]n of a husband or of a Fa[the]r in that transaction - she goes on, he had written several times - and that she saw Mrs F's answer to his last letter when he was he was positively forbidden to write any more - if she had not written - surely his children ought to have been taught to acknowledge him their Fa[the]r it must be their duty - my reply was that we had done our best for his children - and because he was their F[ather] although he had never behaved like one - we had been ever careful not to prejudice them against him - that his name had been seldom mentioned - because we could say nothing to his advantage she says her B[rothe]r came to Harwich once, but was denied seeing her which was illegal if he had been ever so bad he could demand an interview - my reply was - that it was a right down falsehood - for she went to Mrs Stevenson's to see him and they took a walk together, when he had opportunity to say whatever he pleased - she says a young man wanted his wife to sympathise with and restrain him - and that it was unscriptural to part man and wife - my reply - had he not broken the marriage vow which he made in the presence of God - to keep the marriage bed undefiled - to keep to her - and only - unto her - no one would have dared to put asunder those whom God had joined - but he had broken the solemn engagement he made before God - and then he was not indeed a husband - and as to sympathising with a man who lived in the course of such wicked habits - who would think of such a thing - she could not go to pot homes4 to sym[pathi]se with him and his pot companions4 - nor to the resort of common women to restrain him she says she saw him on Thursday - when he was much as he was the week before - the then sm [symptoms?] was subsided - his legs and hands were not so swelled - but are very much discoloured - not broken out - that he could not turn in his bed - his medical attendant told her he did not think it likely he would recover - if he did - it would be long first - he had bad symptoms - now I am afraid to hide all this from Harriet - for fear he should die - she would be more hurt yet not to know it before hand perhaps and she might like to see him - and would blame me - and then it would be too late - I could not undo what I had done and as she is so unwell and so nervous I think it will be more than she can bear - if E[dward]5 - comes to you let him know this - I have kept the letters and the copies of mine
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poor Capt Hunt is now dead - I have begged for money for their two sad living men O that God may have softened their erring hearts and have forgiven - pray don't let this letter lay about - everyone ought not to see it - I wish E[dwar]d may be with you - we - Father and I are tolerably well - not very well the heat don't agree with me - my stomach and cough annoys me - I take Mr Hagan's pills - but I am fast to have the pain - I don't touch any vegetable or fruit of any kind - F is delicate in eating his tooth troublesome - the Commissioners have ordered the Packets to be sent up tomorrow - they have put F - thinks 30 tons weight on board her Lady Nepean by their Lordships orders all the Packet guns - and balls and carriages are all put on board of her - F was afraid her decks would fall in and her bottom be driveout - but she still floats. I would not have anybody belonging to me go up in her - I pray God nobody may be drowned if her bottom does come out W[illiam] - says it won't hurt him - I hope not how stupid it must be to put all in one Vessel - and she was so fall of her own ballace and tackling etc etc - remember us kindly to Ambrose I pray God to be with you and bless and keep you all for ever and ever - you know Capt Moon is appointed - he has arrived at his place and part of his family - the rest are going - his twins are dead [deced?]
your Aff Mother
H Liveing
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Ann was loath to leave us - my new maid is neat and good-looking and appears modest - but I fear she has no who-rah in her - she did not come till Friday I don't think she can stir faster than I do - O dear
Remember me to Mrs Ambrose - I hope you will be able to read what I have written it has made my eyes feel uncomfortable writing so small and close
Footnotes.
1. Julia Ambrose, Harriet Liveing Snr's daughter
2. Mrs Goodwin, Robert Fenn's sister Elizabeth
3. Edward Betts, in 1826 left Harriet £2000
4. Possibly an ale house or from "flesh pots" places providing luxurious or hedonistic living.
5. Dr Edward Liveing, Harriet Liveing Snr's son
November 2017
And still more revelation on Robert Fenn.
A letter from his Gt Niece Isabella Cotes nee Fenn, reveals the patronising and shamed attitude towards Robert 100yrs later!
Liveing Archive.
248a Isabella D Cotes 6, to Edward H T Liveing 445 25th Aug 1922, Page 1 of 2
Rosehurst,
Beaufort Road,
Southbourne,
Bournemouth.
25 August 1922.
Dear Edward,
I am going to ask you a favour and hope you will grant it, and that is not to tell Adria Fenn1 about the doings of her great grandfather, curiosity would interest her and I expect she would like to tell the tit-bits to her half-brothers etc.
I think the poor black sheep after all these years might be left in peace, when I think of the loyalty of my Grand Mother, father, and Uncle Robert who never mentioned him to us. I knew he was a fast man2, but am afraid hard-drinking was a very common vice a century or so ago3 - you must remember you only knew of him from letters which were not meant for our eyes4, and I feel sorry your father did not burn them. I am sure my brother Edward5 would have felt with me and much preferred that his children should not be told about the poor man and that we ought to be as loyal as our ancestors. The family has not inherited his vices, I am sure my father and Uncle were the best of sons and it has always been a pleasure
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to me to remember that just before my mother died she said to me "none of my boys have ever given me a moment's anxiety".
My father had always the greatest affection and admiration for your Grandfather and all his family, who were always held up as models to us when we were children and we never hated them for it! But I think continued the admiration.
When I was staying with Uncle Henry6 at Tansor on my return from India he told me that my grandfather was a handsome and fast man, but that was all, and that my grandmother was a great fidget7 which I knew to have been the case, it was her nature and we all have our weak points.
I am the only old person left in our family now, and I felt I must write.
I am very glad to hear such a good account of your Uncle George8, he really is a wonder! Did you ever get over to Nayland to find out the things you wanted to know? I hope the old family Bible is Safe I wrote to Charlie9 about it. My memory gets worse and worse. I hope your wife is well, I saw her once at I.G.S. Adria seems to have enjoyed her day with you both very much we are staying here till the end of next month and then hope to return to our old rooms for the winter.
21 Westby Road
Boscombe
Hants
Yr affect Cousin
Isabella D Cotes
Don't tell Adria I have written to you about the poor black sheep
Footnotes
1. Adria Fenn was Isabella's niece
2. A man or woman who is quick to engage in sexual activities. (The Urban Dictionary 2017)
3. The Age of Scandal
4. Letters by Harriet Liveing Snr discovered in the 1880's, in a secret desk drawer.
5. Dr Edward Liveing Fenn
6. Rev Henry Thomas Liveing Rector of Tansor Northants.
7. Make small movements, especially of the hands and feet, through nervousness or impatience.
8. Professor George Downing Liveing.
9. Dr Charles Edward Fenn.
More details on Robert Fenn:
Records from the Muster Rolls of The 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry, of those noted to be available for muster 1815 to 1822:-
Robt. FENN of Coddenham enrolled 1813
Name - Robert FENN, Gent
Rank - Ensign
Corp - Bosmere & Claydon Volunteer Infantry
Date of Commission - 19 May 1807
When Delivered - [this column entry is annotated for 7 men including Robert, all commissioned and sent on the same dates, and the wording looks like - delivered to Sir M Middleton Bart., at the Ipswich July Sessions 1807 £2-2-0d]
B506/1/1 List of Commissions Suffolk Volunteer Yeomanry 1804 -1825.
Suffolk Record Office 2017
FENN Robt.
Parish - Coddenham
When enrolled - 1813
HA247/5/44 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Apr 1816
FENN Rt
Parish - Coddenham
When enrolled - 1813
HA247/5/46 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 08 Dec 1816
FENN R
Parish - Coddenham
When enrolled - 1813
HA247/5/70 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 12 Aug 1818
Copy of certificate delivered unto Mr Leggatt respecting exemption from the Horse Tax", contains an entry for FENN, Robert of Coddenham.
HA247/5/80 List of Regimental Members 2 Dec 1820
FENN Rt
Coddenham
HA247/5/82 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 01 May 1820
FENN Rt.
Parish - Coddenham
When enrolled - 1813
HA247/5/83 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 12 Aug 1820
FENN Rt.
Parish - Coddenham
When enrolled - 1813
HA247/5/84 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Dec 1820
Suffolk Record Office 2017
Family Notes by Edward Liveing FRCP 1870.
". . . . . Grandfather Fenn of Coddenham had one son Robert, Capt in Yeomanry, who succeeded him in house and farm (Rectory farm belonged to Longe) and married Miss Harriet Liveing . . . . ."
Liveing Family Archive
Robert & Harriet were married by licence which reads: "Robert Fenn of Coddenham Gent to Harriet Liveing of Harwich. 1813".
DP170/1/22 Pg 4
A marriage bond for L100 was signed by Robert on the 18th May 1813, confirming both their ages were upwards of 21 years, and that he was free to marry
Essex PRO D/ALL 1813. (copy on file)
Robert Fenn bachelor of the Parish of Coddenham in the County of Suffolk and Harriott Liveing of this Parish of St Nicholas Harwich were married in this Chapel by licence with consent of Parents this Eighteenth day of May One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirteen by me Wm Winfield Vicar
Witness's:Thos Liveing, Harriet Liveing, Mrs Liveing, Samuel Ward Jnr1, M A Enefer2
Marriage Certificate on file
Footnotes:
1. Samuel Ward was probably brother of Ellen Stuart nee Ward letter extracts about Harriet below.
2. Mary Ann Enefer a young friend of the Liveing family, died Dec 1813 aged 24.
Harwich May 21
Tuesday was married here, Mr Robert Fenn, a respectable farmer at Coddenham, Suffolk, to Harriett second daughter of Mr T Living (sic) Esq, Commander of his Majesty's packet the Lady Nepean, of this port.
Ref: Ipswich Journal Saturday 22 May 1813.
Married.
Yesterday sen'night Mr Robert Fenn of Coddenham, to Miss Harriet Living, daughter of Capt T Living (sic), Commander of the Lady Nepean, packet at Harwich.
Bury & Norwich Post. 26th May 1813.
Letter to Julia Ambrose nee Liveing, Harriet Liveings sister, from Ellen Stuart nee Ward
9 June 1813
. . . . . I am now anxiously expecting to hear of Harriet's wedding, which I judge has taken place I wrote to congratulate her on the approaching event, & sincerely do I wish her much happiness . . . . . do let me hear about Mr F [enn] and Harriet I will not call him round face now, & when I see him shall shake hands with him, with pleasure & wish him joy that he has had courage to give the young man in the country, an example of marrying, for there were a great many of them, that I think would . . . . . wiser if they would marry, & content themselves? with domestic pleasures, rather than gatting about to see every diversion which happens near them . . . . . "
Ipswich.
Yesterday sen'night John Robinson was committed to the county jail, in this town, by the Rev John Longe, charged with stealing a silver tablespoon, the property of Mr Robert Fenn of Coddenham.
Ref: Ipswich Journal 5 November 1814 (this may have been Robert [4529] ?)
A Alston Fenn writes 12 Dec 1961 to H L Fenn ". . . . . I have a nice water colour of our Gt Grandmother Harriet Liveing who married Robert Fenn and whose mother was Harriet Harrold. It was given me by Dolly (Cotes). I wish I could find out something about Robert Fenn, we know he left Harriet but where he came from or where he went is a closed book . . . . ."
In 1817 he held the auction described below, the Parish Tax assessments (valuation still L160) then name a Thomas Diggons as taxpayer for Valley Farm.
In 1818 - 1819 Overseers tax for the poor a Robert Fenn was assessed for land bought from George Gibbons, valued at 6 pds, however in the 1819 - 1820 assessment this land appears to have passed to Geo Goodwin (probably his brother-in-law) for the last two quarters. (Ref SRO FB37/G1/3)
Land Tax assessments for the district of Bosmere & Claydon, village of Coddenham show:
1803 ref HB16 29/40 Ipswich PRO, no record of Robert.
1806 - 1817 Robert Fenn assessed for tax on Valley Farm
1823 ref HB16 29/40 shows Robert Fenn (occupier) Longe (proprietor) assessed tax L2. Also Mrs Fenn (proprietor) Sharman (occupier) tax 12/-
1827 ref HB 16 290/10 shows Widow Fenn occupier (land) Longe (proprietor) tax L2. Also Mrs Fenn (proprietor) John Sherman (occupier) tax 12/-
THE IPSWICH JOURNAL, of the 4 Oct 1817, pg. 4, col. 2, carries an Auction notice as follows:
At Coddenham, by John King, on Mon & Tues the 6th and 7th of Oct 1817. The farming stock and part of the furniture of Mr Robert Fenn of Coddenham.
On the first day will be sold the farming stock, which comprises 6 very excellent young cart mares and geldings, chestnuts and bays; a chestnut stallion, ditto mare with foal at foot ; another chestnut mare, and a black ditto, a bay horse fit for saddle or harness; a 3 year old chestnut colt fit for saddle; a chestnut suckerel, by Belgrade ; and a year old chestnut cart colt ; 5 prime milch cows, in calf ; a 2 year old hefier, and 3 two year old steers; 2 sows and pigs ; a capital road wagon, a useful ditto, a half ? -bucked ditto, a harvest carriage, 3 full-load tumbrills, a three-quarter ditto, an 8 hopper drill complete, a set of scarifiers, tormentors and hoes, 4 gangs of harrows, 4 foot ploughs, a wheel ditto, 2 double toms, a 2 horse roll, dressing machine, 40 sacks, barn utensils, steel malt mill, hand tools, 10 pairs of plough trace, 8 sets of cart ditto, 4 ditto of thillhorse gears, and a great variety of useful farming effects. On the same day will be sold, the Dairy Utensils, 16 excellent hogsheads, Iron-bound stands, 4 1/2 barrel casks, and a quantity of glass bottles, in lots.
The Furniture (to be sold on the Tuesday) consists of an extra sized 4 post bedstead, with green moreen furniture; a 4 post bedstead with mahogany feet pillars, and glazed cotton furniture; other bedsteads and hangings, bordered goose and other featherbeds, blankets and counterpanes, bedside carpets, mahogany chest of drawers, ditto basin stands, dressing tables and glasses, painted wardrobe, neat chamber chairs, a handsome pier glass, in burnished frame; Kidderminster carpet, 4 yars by 5; 6 modern mahogany chairs, and two elbows to match, mahogany card and pillar tables, handsome chinz window curtains, coffee and tea urns,mahogany bureau, painted buffet, 30 hour clock in wainscot case, an excellent kitchen coal range with cruife, & c. complete; kitchen tables and chairs, a good 3 coomb mash tub, 190 gallon brewing copper, 2 small coppers, other brewing and washing requisites, cullinary articles, earthen and stoneware, and numerous useful domestic effects.
Catalogues to be had at the Market Inns in the County; at the neighbouring Public Houses; at the place of sale; and of the Auctioneer, County Press Ipswich.
Sale to begin each day at Ten o'clock.
Letter to Julia Ambrose nee Liveing, Harriet Liveings sister, from Ellen Stuart nee Ward
26 Jan 1818
". . . . . I suppose your Sister yet remains at Coddenham I heard from some one (Susan Cope I believe) that she had rooms at Mrs Reeves but wether (sic) the farm is let, or they have finally left it I am ignorant . . . . ."
The researcher considered (2002) that Robert and Harriet may have been unable to continue at Valley Farm for financial reasons, although Rev Longe papers show no record of arrears in land rent due to him, and no trace of a bankruptcy has been found.
In 2017 in a letter dated 1833, Roberts mother-in-law, reveals details, at least from her view, around the end of Robert & Harriets marriage, no financial support for Robert from the Liveing's to continue his lifestyle would have been considered.
It is then most likely that given very difficult farming conditions at the start of the 19th C and that perhaps Robert was not the farmer his father was, he just quit.
It is not known when Robert turned to teaching, his sister Elizabeth mentions above (1833) that he had a school at Haughley (Harleigh).
Merchant Taylors School Register.
June 1827.
Robert Liveing Fenn, b 17 Mar 1814, s of Robert and Harriett, schoolmaster, Harleigh, Suffolk.
Thomas Harrold Fenn, b 15 Dec 1815, s of Robert and Harriett, schoolmaster, Harleigh, Suffolk.
Roberts entry comes with a note: "R L Fenn Senior Clerk in National Debt Office"
Enquiry's with Merchant Taylors School in 2009:
Dear Mr. Fenn,
We have records of Robert L.Fenn as born 17.3.1814 son of Robert (schoolmaster) and Harriet of Hawleigh Suffolk M.T.s 1827-29 died unknown date August 1884 (occupation civil servant National Debt Office). Variant spelling Liveing/Lieving and his brother Thomas H. Fenn as born 15,12.1815 M.T.S 1827-31 with 2 terms in the Sixth Form. No further details under his entry in the 1561-1934 Register published in 1936)
Geoffrey Brown: Head of General Studies
Merchant Taylors School was formed in 1327 by the craft Guild of Merchant Tailors & Linen Armourers.
Dear Mr. Fenn,
In an idle moment I discovered that "Hawleigh" is an obsolete variant spelling of Haughley (Suffolk) still seen on some old milestones.
G Brown
Elizabeth Fenn, widow of Simon Fenn late of Coddenham farmer, buried 21 May 1831 at Coddenham, died at Hawleigh aged 78 yrs - It is probable that Robert was living with his mother at Hawleigh at that time?
In 1836 Roberts father-in-law Thomas Liveing died, the Fenn family (Harriet and Roberts 2 sons) were mentioned as follows:
Provided always that with respect to the share of my daughter Harriet the wife of Robert Fenn I order and direct that the same shall be placed out at interest in the names of the said Edward Liveing and Charles Liveing and the prooceeds thereof be paid into the hands of my said daughter Harriet Fenn for her own sole or separate use for the term of her natural life. . . . . . "that those same or any part thereof may not be at the disposal of or subject or liable to the control debts or engagements of her present or any after taken husband but only at her own sole and separate disposal" . . . . .
At Harriets death:
Thereafter I give and bequeath the principle monies aforesaid to be divided between the children of my daughter Harriet, at age twenty one, equally share and share alike.
The 1841 Census lists a Robert Fenn of Crowfield aged 50 (age rounded down in 1841 census could be between 50 & 54) schoolteacher born Suffolk. (Crowfield is a hamlet a short distance from Coddenham).
2015 - proof that Robert was of Crowfield in 1840 has now been found in the Suffolk Chronicle of 30 May 1840 reporting the marriage of his son Thomas Fenn to Maria Alston. It reads "On Tuesday week, at Nayland, by the Rev H.T. Liveing, Thomas Harrold Fenn, Esq., of Rushall, Wilts, son of Mr Robert Fenn, of Crowfield, to Maria, youngest daughter of the late George Alston, Esq."
The school at Crowfield was owned by Shrubland Hall, a 19thC undated map shows it with a mark "sell". Does the Shrubland Hall Archive have information on Robert Fenn ? 2011.
A search of the Ipswich Journal on line for school masters between 1817 - 1844 reveals many ad's for school masters for Workhouse Schools (pay between L20 - L35 p.a.) and National Schools.
2009.
A note in the diary of Aaron Smith of Coddenham is as follows: "March 27th 1844 Mr Fenn our lodger died aged 58yrs"
Ref: Qs Coddenham 9 Lummis Vol 21 Ipswich SRO.
This Robert was described as a farmer on his death certificate, cause of death dropsy (on file) Application No R157327 No 413, a Sarah Smith was present at his death.
Died: 27th inst., at Coddenham after a protracted affliction, Mr Robert Fenn: as a neighbour he was highly respected, and as a master he was generous and kind.
Ipswich Journal. 30th March 1844.
Deaths: 27th ult., after a protracted affliction, Mr Robert Fenn of Coddenham.
Bury & Norwich Post. 4 April 1844.
The affliction described in these death notices was almost certainly that described in 1833 as "rheumatism and that his legs were in a bad state and it was thought he would not get the better of"
Died.
Mr Robert Fenn of Coddenham near Ipswich aged 38 (sic)
Ref: Norfolk Chronicle 6 April 1844
Robert Fenn abode Codd b 3 Apr 1844 57yrs
Coddenham Burial register
Deaths: Mr Robert Fenn of Coddenham - Norfolk Chronical 16 April 1844.
Whites Directory Suffolk 1844 Crowfield: No record of a Robert Fenn
The death details entered against Robert in this record are based on an age at death of 58 years. This fits the bap. date the death certificate, and the note in the diary of Aaron Smith of Coddenham. Roberts address given in his son's marriage notice 30 May 1840 plus the mention of "master" in his death notice, links this Robert with the 1841 Census record of Robert of Crowfield schoolmaster and Robert of Hawleigh schoolmaster in 1827 and finally Robert husband of Harriet Liveing, father of Thomas Fenn. This Robert was described as a farmer on his death certificate (on file) Application No R157327 No 413, a Sarah Smith was present at his death.
Tithe Apportionment Crowfield.
Robert Fenn Occ. William Webb Owner. Plan 325 Cottage & Garden 27p. 10 Jun 1845. (No tithe entered?)
Ref: Tithe Apportionments TNA IR29/33/126.
This tithe apportionment struck in June 1845 is a minor anomaly.
The 1851 Census records Harriet as a widow, records at her death in 1864 describe her as widow of Robert Fenn, gent, landed proprietor.
Research Notes:
Robert is shown in the Coddenham Baptism Register as ; Fenn Robert son of Simon and MARY 2 Oct 1785.
There is no record of a marriage between a Simon Fenn & Mary in the Coddenham Register. Elizabeth Fenn is described as Simons relict on her headstone. This section of the 1785 Register is in a different handwriting to that of the vicar Longe and the researcher now (2002) considers the entry an error.
Ref General Notes Thomas Liveing [230]
Appeared Personally: Charles Liveing of Danmark Hill Camberwell Esq, Robert Liveing Fenn gent & William Jennings gent both of the National Debt Office London, Liveing stated on oath that after the death of Thomas Liveing on the 30th Aug 1836 but before the funeral his sister Harriet wife of Robert Fenn proceeded to the room or bedchamber called the Great Front Room where stood a chest of drawers . . . . .
Notes from researcher, Y Massingham, of the Suffolk Record Office - 2017
HA247/5/86 List of Cavalry Members 1st Regiment 06 Mar 1822
The original records that we hold for the Suffolk Yeomanry, Militia and other volunteer forces are held across the 3 separate Suffolk Record Offices, and are not held in one location. In general, items relating to the west of the county are held at Bury Record Office, north of the county are held at Lowestoft Record Office, with central and Ipswich records here at Ipswich Record Office.
However, your notes indicate that Robert FENN had close connections to the parish of Coddenham which falls under Ipswich Record Office collecting area so I looked for yeomanry, militia, and volunteer force records that are held here.
A large amount of promising material is contained within the Edgar Family Papers under collection reference HA247. Lieutenant-Colonel Edgar was at one time the commander of the 1st Regiment Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry, and documents under reference HA247/5, concern his Public Office duties.
However, a further catalogue search revealed a promising document B/506/1/1 List of Commissions Suffolk Volunteer Yeomanry 1804 -1825, within the Collection of the Suffolk Quarter Sessions, so I began with this, and can confirm the following entry:-
Searched also were B/505/1/2 List of Commissions Local Militia1809 - 1818, and B/505/1/3 List of Commissions West Suffolk Militia, East Suffolk Militia, Yeomanry Suffolk, Deputy Lieutenants 1844 - 1847, also from the Suffolk Quarter Sessions collection, no entries for Robert FENN.
Turning to the Edgar Family papers, HA247/5/41 Copy Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Apr 1815. The document title states "To his Grace the Duke of Grafton his majesty's Lieutenant of the County of Suffolk, Muster Roll of the First Regiment Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry Commanded by Lieutenant-Col. Edgar".
Under the entries for "Effectives", were the following entries:-
FENN Robt.
Parish - Barham
When enrolled - 1813
HA247/5/42 Copy Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Aug 1815, I can confirm the following entry:-
FENN Robt.
Parish - Barham
When enrolled - 1813
In HA247/5/45 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Aug 1816 I can confirm the following entry:-
FENN Robt.
Parish - Barham
When enrolled - 1813
Is this Robert of Barham husband of Harriet ?
Sources:
B/506/1/1 List of Commissions Suffolk Volunteer Yeomanry 1804 -1825
B/505/1/2 List of Commissions Local Militia1809 - 1818
B/505/1/3 List of Commissions West Suffolk Militia, East Suffolk Militia, Yeomanry Suffolk, Deputy Lieutenants 1844 - 1847
HA24:50/19/4/4/6 Papers Relating to Local Defence Bosmere 1794 - 1830
HA247/5/41 Copy Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Apr 1815
HA247/5/42 Copy Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Aug 1815
HA247/5/44 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Apr 1816
HA247/5/45 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Aug 1816
HA247/5/46 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 08 Dec 1816
HA247/5/70 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 12 Aug 1818
HA247/5/80 List of Regimental Members 2 Dec 1820
HA247/5/82 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 01 May 1820
HA247/5/83 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 12 Aug 1820
HA247/5/84 Muster Roll 1st Regiment Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry Cavalry 14 Dec 1820
Whilst the sub-section HA247/5 of Collection HA247, contains 115 separate documents, some are too early, or too late in date to reasonably hold any mention of Robert 1785 - 1844. However, I chose those with most potential for listing named individuals for this search. The details set out above for each potentially relevant FENN entry is as found, and took three hours to research. However, you may wish to order further paid research of original documents we hold here to extend the family details, or to confirm entries found via the internet.
Suffolk Archives Ipswich Jun 2017
Also searched by Suffolk Archives Ipswich 2017:
HD80/3/1 'An account of the cause and institution of the Yeomanry in Suffolk with Minutes of the 2nd Troop by Cornelius Collett of Woodbridge 1794 - 1803 relates to the 2nd Troop in Woodbridge, no mention of a Fenn
HA247/5/34 Return of the 1st Regiment of Loyal Suffolk Yeomanry commanded by Milson Edgar 14 April 1815, a single page setting out the numbers or strength of the 1st Regiment in a table/grid format with no named individuals.
Document HA247/5/86 List of Cavalry Members 1st Regiment 06 Mar 1822, lists the members of this cavalry regiment at this date, and called to muster at Scole Inn (a village close to Diss on the Norfolk/Suffolk border). Whilst the surname FENN is noted, the initial is certainly an 'S' not an 'R'.)
Suffolk Record Office 2017 (Probably not Robert Fenn of Coddenham [198])
The Suffolk Record Office Ipswich in 2017 searched for any record of Robert or Elizabeth Fenn in Haughley SFK, and Robert in Crowfield. They reported difficulty finding school records before 1850, References to documents held relating to Haughley School Collection have a start date of 1869. For Haughley Crawford CEVCP School Collection the start date is 1871.
The following was searched without success:
FB220/M/1/1 Papers mainly relating to the Ward and Crawford charities and Charity School 1853 to 1948.
HA24:50/19/4/5/20 Papers relating to schools 1759 - 1889 (part of the Bacon Longe Family Archive), it includes reference to charity within Crowfield.
However Fenn's were mentioned on a Valuation List the basis to pay Poor Relief, as:
Valuation List 2nd August 1799
Fenn, Robt.
Valuation £31.10
Coddenham Suffolk Valuations 1797 - 1801
Simon Fenn £110
Also searched FB37/L2/1 Mendlesham Farm - Lady Catherine Gardemau Charity for Coddenham School - Account Book 1754 -1846, which is in a detailed ledger format setting out the disbursements etc for the running of the school. No mention of Fenn.
Finally searched was a Collection for Shrubland Hall under the Saumarez Family Archive Collection reference HA93. This holds over 13,000 separate entries.
Files concerning education searched without success were HA93/6/9, HA93/6/9/1, HA93/6/9/2, HA93/6/9/3, HA93/6/9/4.
Ref: K Massingham Suffolk Record Office Ipswich.
Coddenham Association
Notice is hereby given, that the Annual Meeting of the Subscribers of this Association will be held at the Crown Inn in Coddenham, on Monday the 5th day of June next, at the hour of One o'clock in the afternoon; when the subscribers, and all other persons desirous of becoming Members, are requested to attend.
Subscribers Names:
Sir William Middleton Bart.
The Rev John Longe.
The Rev Thomas Methold.
William Martin Esq.
Mr Robert Brooke, Barham.
Mr William Bird, Baylham.
Mr J. Simpson, Coddenham.
James Brooke, Coddenham.
John Fox, Coddenham.
John Bird, Coddenham
Robert Proctor, Coddenham.
William Bird, Coddenham.
Robert Fenn, Coddenham
Theod Banyard, Coddenham.
Mrs Katharine Mayhew.
Mr Richard Keeble, Creeting All Saints.
Mr Philip Beart, Creeting All Saints.
Mr Joseph Peck, Crowfield.
Mrs Mary Larter, Crowfield.
Mr Thomas Edwards, Gosbeck.
Mr Edward Elliston, Hemingstone.
Mr Luke Leaders, Hemingstone
Edward Field, Hemingstone
James Garnham, Hemingstone.
James Brooke - Treasurer
Richard Mudd - Solicitor
24th of May 1809.
The Ipswich Journal of 29 May 1819.
Contains an similar report of the Coddenham Assn.
A Robert Fenn is listed as a subscriber
The Catalogue Ipswich Borough Archives 1255 - 1835
Town Responsibilities & Services Page 511
King Garnham, plumber & glazier, obligor; Robert Fenn of Coddenham, farmer, and John Garnham Jnr of Nacton, farmer, sureties.
C/5/1/5/2/93 14 Dec 1811.
Ancestry.com
A Robert Fenn was living in Cogshall 12 Nov 1842.
Ref: Leeds General Advertiser
Suffolk Burial Index - Robert Fenn buried Coddenham 3 Apr 1844 aged 57 abode Coddenham.
Early in the reasearch into Robert Fenn [198] there was much confusion with Robert Fenn 1787-1825 [4529].
It is however proven that it is (a cousin of Robert [198]), Robert Fenn 1787 - 1825 [4529] and Margaret Fenn (nee Driver) who took up the lease of Malt Office Farm in 1817, previously occupied by John Bird, Margaret continuing with the lease after Roberts death in 1825.
Valley Farm has been owned since 1922 by three generations of the Cousens family, Harold, Reginald and Gerald, grandson of Harold - 2003.
Check of Cambridgeshire burials 1801-37 had no record of Robert Fenn.
27 June 2009
Dear Mr. Fenn
I passed your e.mail to our Honorary Archivist who has run extensive searches but can find no record of Robert Fenn within the Hadleigh Archive Catalogue.
Regards
Elaine Root
Office Administrator
Hadleigh Town Council
01473 823884
www.onesuffolk.co.uk/HadleighTC <http://www.onesuffolk.co.uk/HadleighTC>
Original Will of Robert Fenn of Soham
IC/500/1/287/83 · 1833 · Suffolk Record Office Bury St Edmunds Branch
Was this perhaps the Will of Capt Robert Fenn [198] ?
The Ipswich Record Office advise in 2017:
IC/500/1/287/83 Original Will of Robert FENN of Soham, has been looked out by colleagues at our Bury St Edmunds Record Office (where the original document is held) and can confirm the following details listed therein:-
Wife - Sarah, who receives 'all & every household goods & furniture, plate, linen & china for her use absolutely'.
Good friends Anthony Fenn of Fordham in Cambridgeshire, and William Chives
Children - John Fenn, son, Eliza, and Hephizibah, daughters
Ref: Y Massingham IRO
1. Robert Fenn: Assignment of Valley Farm, 27 Aug 1807, Coddenham SFK. Mr Wenn
Ipswich.
Coddenham
August 27 1807.
Dear Sir,
I herewith send you the Lease for late Simon Fenn's Farm, which I should wish to be attended as I lately mentioned to you, as to his son Robert Fenn, to take the place from last Michaelas.
Except the mere alteration of the name & the clause for the life of S Fenn, everything else may remain.
I yesterday saw Sir Wm Middleton1 and had a good deal of conversation with him in the different subjects at present in dispute between us . . . . . The remainder of the letter outlines these and Longe finishes as . . . . . therefore however unwilling I fear nothing but the Law will rescue me from being continually encroached by such an overbearing neighbour.
I am Dear Sir
Your faithfully
J Longe
IRO Ref. HA24/50/19/3.21
1. Middleton lived at Shrubland Hall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrubland_Hall
2. Robert & Harriets: Marriage Bond, 18 May 1813.
3. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Crowfield Suffolk.
Records Robert Fenn aged 50 a School Master born Suffolk.
Note: In the 1841 census, the age of persons over 15 was supposed to be rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5. For example, a person aged 19 would be listed as 15, a person aged 22 would be listed as age 20, and a person age 59 would be listed as 55.
Therefore if Robert gave his age as 54? it would have been rounded down to 50.
At the marriage of his son Thomas he was named as "of Crowfield".
Robert married Harriet LIVEING [227] on 18 May 1813 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS. Harriet was born on 21 Sep 1789 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS, was baptised on 20 Nov 1789 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS, and died on 28 Mar 1864 in Nayland SFK aged 74. The cause of her death was a diseased heart,1 year certified.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Robert Liveing FENN Gent. [116] was born on 27 Mar 1814, was baptised on 14 Apr 1814 in Coddenham SFK, died on 28 Aug 1884 in 32 Victoria Rd Kensington MDX aged 70, and was buried on 1 Sep 1884 in Brompton Cemetery LND.
4 ii. Dr Thomas Harrold FENN M.R.C.S. [1] (born in 1815, baptised Coddenham SFK - died on 13 Apr 1870 in Nayland SFK)
9. Harriet LIVEING [227], daughter of Commander Thomas LIVEING R N [230] and Harriet HARROLD [231], was born on 21 Sep 1789 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS, was baptised on 20 Nov 1789 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS, and died on 28 Mar 1864 in Nayland SFK aged 74. The cause of her death was a diseased heart,1 year certified.
General Notes:
In 2017 family letters revealed some of the mystery that had pervaded for over 200 yrs regarding her marriage to Robert Fenn. Robert's reprehensible behaviour is clearly seen to have upset Harriet's righteous mother Harriet. But daughter Harriett's view remains unknown, although some 40 plus years later, she names Robert Fenn gent as her husband, on her tombstone.
Her father Thomas clearly put her inheritance beyond the reach of Robert, when he wrote his will in 1833.
Alston Fenn writes in the 1950,s "I have a nice water colour of our Gt Grandmother Harriet Liveing (now in the possession of E L Fenn 2017) who married Robert Fenn and whose mother was Harriet Harrold. It was given me by Dolly (Cotes). I wish I could find out something about Robert Fenn, we know he left Harriet but where he came from or where he went is a closed book"
It was not of course, much is now known of Robert and some of his life.
Harriet is mentioned in many letters written by her mother Harriet, she later lived at various family address's, when she was separated from Robert.
1861 Census lists for 31 Bear St Nayland; Harriet Fenn Widow 70yrs Fund holder. Head of house. Sarah Daniel visitor un 60yrs.Companion. Eleanor E Cousins un 21. Servant.
Harriet was identified by family letters living as follows:
1828 15 July Harwich "Harriet is but poorly having cough and cold and continues to live almost without victuals she will be happy to hear from you (Catherine Liveing nee Downing) when ever you find opportunity to write". 1828 4 Dec Harwich : letter
1831 Harwich. Harriet's mother writing to Edward her son says " Harriet is very poorly she is so pale she vexes me when I look at her . . . . . she will fret . . . . . fearing that Robert will lose the situation . . . . . should the Reform Bill pass we . . . . . we can to make her hope for tho. . . . . as . . . . . To leave the . . . . . to God. I have observed to her that even if it . . . . . had in it it might not eventually be best. I want her to lean more on God and less on man. Charles writes that he is much liked and he has no doubt but he will do well, and if Clerks are appointed it is most likely he will be established".
1831 18 Dec. Harriet is very poorly - looks about the colour of a turnip I think she much want some pills like those Edwd ordered for Miss Beaumont - she puts me in pain to see her - our new troubles have not made her better
1832 10 Feb Nayland? possibly with her brother, her father offers her money : letter
1836 April? Harwich. Harriet's mother writing to her daughter-in law Catherine Liveing (Katy) mentions Harriet in connection with buying some pigeons "knowing you and Edward are fond of them Harriet bespoke half a dozen when they could be obtained, these I have now sent were brought this morning, they are wood birds as you will see, Harriet thinks the flavour of them is higher than the tame pigeons".
1836 10 June Harwich : letter
1839 (abt) London (C/o National Debt Office where her son Robert worked)
1842 Sept. Horksley Park. Francis Liveing writes to her mother from Tom Fenn's, Rushall refering to Robert Fenn proposing to visit his mother at Horksley Park (Essex?)
1848 21 & 24 Aug Kelvedon ESS. Robert while travelling Nth writes two letters to his mother C/o T C Harrold Esq Feering Nr Kelvedon Essex. Robert visited Fortescue & Mrs Knotterford at Alveston Manor 3 miles from Stratford
Harriet Liveing nee Harrold writes 5 Sep 1825 Liveing Archive 52a LT6
. . . . . Aunt Downes has been with us nearly a fortnight - Harriet is gone home with her - they left us last Tuesday - on Friday they hired a donkey and cart and went to Denham? To see Uncle and Harriets children - they heard from Edwards account to me that Uncle was not at all likely to come and see us this summer as he is so lame so my Aunt wishing very much to see him took that mode of convenience . . . . .
Harriet is named a beneficiary in her fathers will dated 5 Oct 1833 and described as the wife of Robert Fenn. However her legacy is placed in trust for her and "her present or any after taken husband" specifically denied any benefit from the proceeds.
The 1851 Census records Harriet as a widow.
Her grave in St James Churchyard Nayland reads "In memory of Harriet widow of Robert Fenn gent who died March 28th 1864 aged 74 years. What doth the Lord require of thee but to do justly and love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God"
Death Cert No 477 Dist Sudbury-Bures, registered 13 Mar 1864. confirms age at 74 yrs. Occupation " Widow of Robert Fenn landed proprietor". Informant "The mark of Eliza Burrows present at the death Nayland".
Will dated 27 Feb 1864 was proved 2 May 1864, at under 1000pds by sons Robert Liveing Fenn Gent of The National Debt Office and and Thomas Harrold Fenn Surgeon of Nayland, executors and sole beneficiaries in equal shares.
Portrait of Harriet in possession of E.L. Fenn Auckland N Z 1998.
1. Marriage of Harriet & Robert: 18 May 1813, St Nicholas Harwich ESS.
Marriage Register, St Nicholas Harwich Essex.
2. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Rushall WIL. Harriet is described as aged 50 of independant means not born in Wiltshire
3. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, 14 The Green Camberwell Dulwich SRY. Harriet is recorded as head of house widow aged 61 no employment born Harwich ESS
4. Census: England, 8 Apr 1861, 31 Bear St Nayland SFK. Harriet is described as head of house a widow aged 70 fundholder born Harwich ESS Also in the house was Sarah Daniel a companion aged 60 and a general servant.
5. Harriet's Death: 28 Mar 1864.
Harriet in old age, Headstone in Nayland Churchyard, Death Certificate
Harriet married Capt Robert FENN [198] on 18 May 1813 in St Nicholas Harwich ESS. Robert was baptised on 2 Oct 1785 in Coddenham SFK, died on 27 Mar 1844 in Coddenham SFK aged 58, and was buried on 3 Apr 1844 in Coddenham SFK. The cause of his death was dropsy.
10. George ALSTON [61], son of Samuel ALSTON [85] and Mary VANDERZEE [86], was born on 11 Sep 1763, was baptised on 8 Oct 1763 in Nayland SFK, died on 4 Feb 1831 in Nayland SFK aged 67, and was buried on 5 Feb 1831 in Nayland SFK.
General Notes:
George was an Attorney at Law. Resided at "Grooms" Nayland 1800/31.
Miniature and silhouette in possession of E L Fenn Auckland NZ 1998.
George Alston Gent of Nayland, granted commission to take affidavits, 29 Dec 1785. Ref HA541/1/2
1786 Nov 1 - George as Deputy Steward of the Manor of Nayland for the first time presided over the Court Baron.
Ref: Dr Edward L Fenns book of notes pg 31
George paid Quit Rent to the Manor of Nayland in 1797, 1818, & 1827 as:
For the freehold Mansion called Groom 6d, 4 pieces of ground laid into the Wall Garden 4d, 4d, 4d, & 9d, Garden behind Mansion 1/-, Ground called Chamberlains pt of Mansion 4d, Ground laid into yard opposite church 4d, total 3/11d
Copyhold ground called Themballs and other land 4/4d
George also owned Hawks in Lt Horkesley.
1798 George was listed as an Out Sitter and paid 2/- Land Tax in Wissington by Nayland.
George acted as Attorney for an Edward Blair of 45 Marlborough St and 49 Upper Berkley St London, owner of substantial estates in Lt Horkesley (Lord of that Manor?) and elsewhere, many letters between them some of a personal nature exists in the possession of Julia Redman and the Colchester RO ref D/DOt/E3
Edward Blair was also George Alston's friend, business associate and agent in London.
George writes many invitations in warm terms to Blair to visit them at Nayland.
Nayland 8 May 1798.
. . . . . The season is now come for felling timber, we expect the pleasure of seeing you here. . . . .
I Remain Dear Sir
Your Faithful and Very Obedient Servant
George Alston.
A number of letters exist written by Blair to George, interesting in their form and detail of life at that time:
London
January 20, 1804.
Dear Sir,
. . . . . Your wig is in hand, and is expected daily but as you propose to be in town so soon, perhaps you would like to see it before it is sent. The maker says that straight here is the present fashion, but I have ordered this to be like the former.
Having observed your fondness for pork, I had thoughts of sending you a collar of brawn, but shall defer it till I see you, as the taste is peculiar. It is to me insipid food, though recommended by the name of fashion.
Perhaps I may trouble you upon your return with some books for your neighbours. You are not yourself a bookish man, which is the reason I have not hitherto troubled you by sending any.
Yours etc etc
E Blair.
London,
August 8, 1805,
Dear Sir,
I take the opportunity of Mr Whitmore's return to Neyland (sic) to send you for your sisters use, another number of Thompsons Scotch Songs. . . . . I send also a piece of Harpsichord wire (No.5) obtained from Broadwood's, which I hope will stand the necessary tension. No more sonatas are published than they have already, that is 6 by Pleyel and 6 by Kozeluck, having experienced that his chief profit arises from the songs. I have added also the frontispieces to the two first volumes, which were not published at the time with the music.
Yours in haste,
E Blair.
Essex Record Office D/DOt E3 1 bdl.
RECORDS OF LITTLE HORKESLEY
Dates of Creation 1786-1828
Correspondence and accounts of George Alston of Nayland, Suffolk, attorney-at-law, to Edward Blair, esq., residing in London, relating to the management and legal affairs of the Little Horkesley Estate. Matters include rents and repairs, cultivation of leased farms, tithes, parish rates and the curacy of Little Horkesley; also (1804) to dispute between Edward Blair and William Cole [of Colchester] over payment for making a survey of the parish
George also acted as Agent for Blair inspecting, and arranging repairs to be done on his properties, collecting rents and tythes, and negotiating with Blair's tenants.
London,
October 13, 1805.
Dear Sir,
In reply to your letter of the 28th ult. I have no objection to the lath and plaster in the manner you mentioned . . . . . But whatever way is adopted must be undertaken immediately, or else deferred till the next spring lest the frost set in before it be dry, which will infallibly cause it to scale, and fall off. . . . .
I learn from my brother, who has been lately down there, that W Sadler has spread a false report of me as having broken my word with him; for that I had promised neither to turn him out of his farm, nor raise his rent. I never dreamt of any such engagement; nor could he have any pretence to claim it. But had I even promised, I have kept my word; as he himself has refused to stay. He told me in person that I had used him generously, as well as my father and mother before me, in suffering him to continue upon the old terms for 40 years. Let him take care lest his short road to heaven, by the way of faith without works, should prove too long for him ever to reach it. All liars, we are told, are excluded. Had he been assured of my promise he would not have failed to have claimed it. . . . .
I should have answered your letter sooner, but that I waited for the return of Mr Parish, by whom I sent you the last number of Scotch songs with a line of explanation. He told me yesterday that he delivered the parcel to Mr Harrold, who would hardly omit to forward your part of it, so that it appears a mere omission on your part to notice it in your letter. . . . .
Yours etc etc.
E Blair
London
December 24, 1805.
Dear Sir,
I thank you for your communication of yesterday, respecting the sale of Burrell's farm. But besides that I have not at present the command of so much money, the situation is not particularly eligible for me; and it is greatly encumbered with old wooden buildings, of which I have already a super abundance.
Mr Gosling is welcome to some pollard's for fencing; only let him begin with the oldest and worst. Indeed his own interest should direct him to this, as his farm is crowded with a superfluity of them. I observed several which were cut down by his predecessor, and were left to rot in the neighbouring ditches.
Mr Wiggins says that two loads of manure returned to the farm, is an equivalent for one of hay or straw carried off; but care should be taken that it is really returned.
. . . . . Mr John Barnard, executor to the late Dr Gibbons, called on me lately, to return me the copy of my sister's marriage contract. I see by it that her husband has no control over her fortune. She and her trustees have the absolute disposal of it, in all respects the same as if still unmarried; her discharge being good to all intents and purposes. A power is also reserved to apportion her children, according to her own and their discretion. . . . .
I am sorry for your brother Jame's loss, as I fear his children also will be sufferers by the loss of their mother. His own health is not good and they are still but young. (Within a year the children were orphaned)
The compliments of the season attend you all. What a horrible scene of slaughter is now carrying on in Germany. Surely the madness of Kings shall be richly rewarded!
Yours,
E Blair.
George Alston
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Spouse's first name
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Blair writes somewhat cynically on George taking a second wife.
London
May 29th 1806
Dear Sir,
I have been long ago instructed, that the marriage of a wife has sometimes hindered engagements of a much more serious nature, than that for which you apologise in your note of this morning: even the keeping of the marriage supper of the Prince of Peace. I do not however consign you to "outer darkness" for the deed but merely "inner darkness" of a private chamber; till you shall have fully expiated your offence, by incurring all the pains and penalties of matrimony. In a word, I wish you all the comforts the state is capable of, which however are in my estimation so small, that they are in no respect a balance for the certainty of their opposites. In truth though I had formed no conception of the party, I had an obscure expectation of some such new arrangement, from a certain derangement I observed at Horkesley; and it must be confessed that of two unavoidable wills, you have chosen the least. I presume from the name your lady is one of the two sisters I saw at Stoke last year. I wish her all prosperity. Let me know whether I shall send her a piece of plate, or other furniture, of the value of 20 guineas as a token of my sincerity. I take the liberty of referring it to her own choice, because I reckon that a thing of use is at all times preferable to a toy, and I should be sorry to blunder upon a useless complement.
With my best wishes to you both,
I remain,
Yours etc etc.
E Blair.
London
December 3, 1811
Dear Sir,
. . . . . You will receive by the conveyance of the wagon, a couple of carpets for your two parlours, as new and as ugly as fashion can desire. I hunted in vain for a neat octagonal pattern for the front room, on account of the angular fireplace. But no such patterns have been manufactured for these last seven years; and though they offered to make one on purpose, they could not disgrace their name by keeping them on hand. But the single recommendation of fashion will, in the eyes of certain of your family at least, sufficiently overbalance other objections.
The watch is repaired but not yet regulated. Certain parts which Georgehad been broken, will now be replaced by new ones, and it will be forwarded in a week or two.
You have addressed your last letter to "No.45" which was the number of my former lodging. But my present is No.49 but I am strongly tempted to shift again, on account of the disgust of living among rogues. My drawers having been robbed the other day of a considerable quantity of linen viz: 3 shirts, 6 cravats, 7 handkerchiefs, 4 pair of cotton stockings, and 3 pair of white silk. My landlady's suspects a certain fat old woman whom she received for a few nights, and whose time of departure corresponded with the loss. Yet she refused to take any legal steps to identify the thief, lest she should bring a bad report upon her own house; choosing rather, woman like, to be herself suspected, than by proving it on the guilty, to clear her own character. Ann will say, what motive can induce her to such perverse conduct? The hope only of obtaining 3 1/2 guineas per week off a stranger. For though such an expectation never be realised, yet the conviction will operate as strongly as the truth. But even thus the contrivance is at best unnecessary, as she might at any time get quit of me, according to agreement. But you know women never go directly to their object; they love a little plot to bring about the end.
With my best respects to your ladies,
yours etc etc
E Blair
London
August 25, 1812.
Dear Sir,
When my tenant Creek came last to town to petition for the renewal of his lease, he told me your lady has a vessel on the stocks, but was unable to determine what time it would be launched. I was unwilling therefore to visit you at a venture, lest I should arrive at the unseasonable time of the groaning; which though you have not mentioned it, I presume must now be over . . . . .
I propose however seeing you in the course of next week, when I hope to find you all in perfect health. And remain in the meantime, with my best respects to your lady etc etc.
Yours etc etc
E Blair
London
March 31, 1813.
Dear Sir,
I have been this day informed by Mr Ball that he has yesterday dispatched the piano-forte to be delivered to you by one of the common stage wagons, on its way to Hadleigh. You will pleased to return the packing case by the same conveyance, and acquaint me with the day of its arrival in town, that Mr Ball may fetch it from the in in his own caravan, which will save him a few shillings for porterage. Address it to "Mr Ball, pianoforte maker, Duke Street, Grosvenor Square, London."
You should have received it before but that I have waited till now, for the opportunity of replacing it by the sofa, which had been removed to the apartment of my fellow lodger; and who has but lately recovered from a tedious and severe sickness, notwithstanding the daily attendance of five medical gentleman. Having at length adjourned to his country house I regained the sofa just in the nick of time, for he relapsed and returned again within a week.
A little further delay was occasioned by having the hammers new leathered, for the improvement of the tone; and replacing one of the pedals, which was broken off. After all, it will prove a useless piece of furniture to you both, who are not musical; but it was your ladies own choice: and utility is seldom consulted when the love of fashion predominates. . . . .
I am yours etc
E Blair.
Nayland 5 April 1813
George reply's to Blair that he had received the piano consigned by him, arriving by wagon "to the great joy of my wife" Also mentions his wife is poorly and they are going to the sea at Aldeburgh.
Aldeburgh 31 May 1813.
George writes to Blair that he, his wife and children "are much gratified with the change of the scene" at Aldeburgh.
George writes to Blair 3 Feb 1818 "I have been confined to my bed five days, I am now only able to sit on a sofa in consequence of an operation for the removal of a tumour on my leg which as you may remember was the cause of my lameness. Without society and possessing but few books times passes very slowly with me. I therefore beg the favour any morning you can share time, that you would have the goodness to call"
George was writing from 2 Greville St, Hatton Garden London.
Ref: Colchester RO ESS ref D/DOt E3
George was the Steward for a number of Manors.
Essex Record Office D/DQ 84/108
MANORIAL DOCUMENTS AND OTHER RECORDS OF BELCHAMP WALTER, FOXEARTH AND PENTLOW
Level: Series Deeds of Manors of Liston Overhall, Liston Netherhall and Liston Weston
Dates of Creation 3 June 1788
Scope and Content Admission of William Henry Campbell, esq., eldest son and heir of Wm. Campbell, esq., decd. Piece of arable land etc etc . . . . . all copyhold of the manor of Foxearth Court of Sadler Whitmore, esq. Steward: George Alston gent., deputy for Samuel Alston gent.
Essex Record Office D/DU 381/35
DEEDS AND MAPS OF ELMSTEAD AND FRATING; COTTON FAMILY OF WOODFORD; DEEDS OF LOUGHTON AND ROMFORD
Dates of Creation 22 Oct.1792
Scope and Content Admission of John Grimsey on surrender Robert Chaplin and Nathaniel Holmes, excecturors of Thomas Fenning [as in D/DU 381/33] Property as in D/DU 381/32 and a grovett part of Hulls with a way leading to Bromley Heath, all copyhold of manor of wix hall or Abbey Court of Rev.Erasmus Warren Deputy Steward: George Alston, gent.
Essex Record Office D/DC/41/68
MISCELLANEOUS ESSEX DOCUMENTS
Series Manor of Dale Hall in Lawford
Dates of Creation 7 May 1801
Scope and Content Admission of James Dear on d. of brother John Land (10 a.) in West Bergholt, copyhold of manor of Nether Hall alias Cooks Hall in west Bergholt Court of Thomas Brand, esq. Steward: George Alston, gent.
Essex Record Office D/DU 293/324
DEEDS MAINLY RELATING TO GREAT DUNMOW
Dates of Creation 31 March 1803
Scope and Content . . . . . Court of John and Rich.Marriott, esqs. Steward: James Alston, gent.
Essex Record Office D/DQ 84/44
MANORIAL DOCUMENTS AND OTHER RECORDS OF BELCHAMP WALTER, FOXEARTH AND PENTLOW
Dates of Creation 10 May 1803
Scope and Content Letter of George Alston to unidentified correspondent, forwarding 'Mr Jay's Title completed by Mr. Harrington his atty.' and promising to send 'Mr Bullock's Title' when received from the latter's attorney, Mr. Frost.
Essex Record Office D/DU 133/87
DEEDS AND RECORDS OF LANGHAM AREA.
Dates of Creation 24 April 1809
Scope and Content Copy of the surrender of John Moore of Langham, yeoman, to the use of George Alston of Nayland (co. Suff.), gentleman (exor. of John Norman of Nayland, farmer, decd.), conditional on the repayment of L40. Property, as in 133/80 9except 21/2a. land, already surrendered) Recites: 133/85
Essex Record Office D/DU 133/183
DEEDS AND RECORDS OF LANGHAM AREA.
Dates of Creation 20 May 1813
Scope and Content Admission of James Blyth, jun., on the surrender, as in 133/181 Property as in 133/181 Lord:Anne Hinde, widow Steward: George Alston,gent.
Repository: Essex Record Office D/DC/36/20
MISCELLANEOUS ESSEX DOCUMENTS
Series Manor of Dale Hall in Lawford
Dates of Creation 21 August 1816
Scope and Content Conveyance . . . . . (iii) John Ambrose of LondonManningtree, gentleman (trustee of a term of 1000 years assigned in this Conveyance); (iv) . . . . . (iv) John Mathew Greenwood of Lincolns Inn (co. Middx.), esq., and George Alston of Nayland (co. Suff), gentleman (exors. of Samuel Alston, decd.); (v) John Ambrose (trustee of George Bridges);. . . . .
Manor of Nayland with Downings - Rentals 1818.
Alston George
Mansion called the Groom 6d.
For a piece of ground laid into the Wall Garden 4d.
For the garden behind the mansion 1s 0d.
For a piece of ground called Chamberlains Pt of mansion 4d.
For a piece of ground also laid into Wall Garden 9d.
For a piece of ground formd Doomsdales laid into Wall Garden 4d.
For a piece of ground laid into yard opposite church 4d.
For a piece of ground called Harlins Yard laid into Wall Garden 4d.
Ref: Bury R.O. HA541/2/1/13 v 3s 11d.
Essex Record Office D/DU 177/71
DEEDS OF ALTHORNE, MAYLAND AND LATCHINGDON-CUM-SNOREHAM
Dates of Creation 19 March 1823
Scope and Content Copy of Assinment of Mortgage, 13 March 1818, for L1,000 (i)John Griggs of Messing, esq.; (ii) Benjamin Cook; (iii) George Alston of Nayland (co. Suff.), gent. Property as in 177/62 Recites: 177/66; 177/69
Essex Record Office D/DU 177/93
DEEDS OF ALTHORNE, MAYLAND AND LATCHINGDON-CUM-SNOREHAM
Series Deeds of Chamberlands lands in Althome and Mayland
Dates of Creation 31 March 1823
Scope and Content Assignment of Mortgage for remainder of term of 1,000 years (i) George Alston of Nayland (co. Suff.), gent.; (ii) Lucy Boys Revett; (iii) John Harriss and John Population; (iv) William Wright of Maldon, gent. Poperty as in 177/88-90 In trust for securing the L500 and to attend the inheritance Recites: 177/69; 177/71; 177/88-91
Essex Record Office D/DXkLondon/30
Manor of Wix & Mistley.
Series D/DXk 28-40 Deeds of Westlands Farm, Wix
Dates of Creation 29 April 1823.
Scope and Content Manor of Wkkds Hall or Abby. Memorandum of Conditional Surrender for L130; of John Ham of Wix, yeoman, (by the hands of George Alston gent., steward), to use of Nathl. Cutting of wix, farmer. The lands & tenements called Westlands (16 a.)
Placement uncertain ELF 2004
Essex Record Office D/DU 133/91
DEEDS AND RECORDS OF LANGHAM AREA.
Dates of Creation 8 October 1829
Scope and Content Copy of a Warrant of Satisfaction of George Alston, as in 133/87, addressed to the Steward of the manor of Langham, that he has received the principal and interest moneys due to him by virtue of three conditional surrenders made by John Moore, as in 133/87, of property, as in 133/87
Ipswich Journal 5 Feb 1831
"Yesternight died at his residence at Nayland in the 68th year of his age , George Alston Esq".
Bury & Norwich Post - Death Notices:
On Friday evening . . . . . Same day whilst sitting in his chair, George Alston of Nayland, solicitor.
Ref 2/2/1831/2/2 Bury RO
The Nayland Parish Register puts George's age at 69.
Research Notes:
The following are references to some of the legal work done by Samuel Alston and his sons James and George at their Nayland practice.
Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch:
ROWLEY OF TENDRING HALL
Catalogue Ref. HA 108
TENDERING HALL ESTATE TITLE DEEDS
FILE - 'Sherwin against Rowley, Title deeds relating to the estate purchased of Mrs Sparrow situate at Stoke in the county of Suffolk - ref. HA 108/2/21 - date: 1682-1798
[from Scope and Content] 1769 William Meadowes of Combs to Samuel Alston of Nayland in trust for William Martin of Stoke by Nayland
[from Scope and Content] 1778 Simson to Samuel Alston of Nayland moieties in trust for Edward Gusterson of Nayland and Henry Gusterson of Bures St Mary
[from Scope and Content] 1783 Fuller and Toosey to James Alston of Nayland in trust for Sarah Sparrow of Edwardstone
FILE - 'Manor of Nayland No 1' - ref. HA 108/2/22 - date: 1669 - 1805
[from Scope and Content] 1756 Assignment of mortgage to Samuel Alston of Nayland
FILE - 'Sherwin against Rowley. Title deeds relating to an estate at Stoke by Nayland and Polstead in Suffolk purchased of Mr Robert Vince'. - ref. HA 108/2/27 - date: 1694-1802
[from Scope and Content] 1785 Margaret Parke of Saffron Walden (Ess) to George Alston of Nayland in trust for Henry Vince of Stoke by Nayland
[from Scope and Content] 1788 John Harsant and wife, Deborah, devisee of John Hyndes of Brandeston to James Alston of Bocking (Ess) in trust for Henry Vince
FILE - 'Bacons Cottage' - ref. HA 108/2/45 - date: 1699-1814
[from Scope and Content] 1809 Mortgage to George Alston of Nayland
[from Scope and Content] 1810 Assignment of mortgage to Sir William Rowley, with Bacon's promise to pay Alston L.63 plus interest
FILE - 'Deeds of houses and lands at Stoke purchased of Chrisp and Manning' - ref. HA 108/2/48 - date: 1797-1810
[from Scope and Content] 1797 Gilbert Ironside of Upper Brook Street (Mdx) and Richard Willis of Monmouth to James Alston of Bocking (Ess) in trust for William Chrisp of Stoke by Nayland together with a farm called Penns in Stoke and Wissington
[from Scope and Content] 1797 Mortgage to Abraham Dansie of Sproughton and George Alston of Nayland
FILE - 1a 34p Meadow in Nayland - ref. HA 108/2/51 - date: 1812
[from Scope and Content] 1812 Sir William Rowley and George Alston of Nayland in exchange for 2 parcels of meadow in Nayland
FILE - 'Title deeds relating to two messuages and 2a of land at Stoke next Nayland purchased by Sir William Rowley bart, of John Ellis 13 Oct 1825' - ref. HA 108/2/57 - date: 1744-1825
[from Scope and Content] 1797 Emmerson to James Alston of Bocking (Ess) in trust for John Ellis of Stoke by Nayland and Anna Maria Hart of Boxford
[from Scope and Content] 1825 Ellis and Charles Alston of Colchester (Ess) to Sir William Rowley, together with 2r 7p allotment under Enclosure Act
[from Scope and Content] 1797 Assignment of mortgage to James Alston
FILE - 'Conveyance of 2 pieces of land in Stoke by Nayland Suffolk from Mr Watts to Sir William Rowley bart, 4 Sept 1828' - ref. HA 108/2/64 - date: 1711-1828
[from Scope and Content] 1812 Mortgage to George Alston of Nayland
FILE - 'Writings of freehold premises in Polstead belonging to R C Rowley purchased of Mr Mortimer's executors dated March 28 and 29 1838' - ref. HA 108/2/72 - date: 1764-1838
[from Scope and Content] 1776 Mortgage to Samuel Alston of Nayland
FILE - 'Sir J R Rowley Bart, writings relating to land purchased of Carter' - ref. HA 108/2/75 - date: 1721-1843
[from Scope and Content] 1822, 1823, 1826 Copy mortgages to George Alston Nayland
[from Scope and Content] 1828 Assignment of mortgage to George Alston junior of Hadleigh
FILE - 'Deeds relating to the farm called Greenwoods in Polstead bought of Mr E Daniels in 1845 by Sir Joshua R Rowley bart'. With note that land part of Sprotts Farm of 5 Jan 1939 subject to a rentcharge of L.3 a year paid to the Congregational Church of Nayland - ref. HA 108/2/76 - date: 1710-1845
[from Scope and Content] 1782 Assignment of mortgage and additional loan to Samuel Alston of Nayland, with bond
FILE - 'Title deeds and writings relating to certain messuages and premises at Stoke by Nayland Suffolk, purchased by Joshua T Rowley Esq of the trustees of the late Mr John Pryke' - ref. HA 108/2/86 - date: 1657-1865; 1664-1822
[from Scope and Content] 1794 Joseph and Margaret Parke to James Alston of Bocking (Ess) in trust for Isaac Pryke of Stoke by Nayland, with copy of a Fine
[from Scope and Content] 1794 Assignment of mortgage to James Alston
FILE - 'Writings relating to freehold cottages and land situate at Stoke by Nayland Suffolk belonging to Sir Charles R Rowley bart, late Goddards' - ref. HA 108/2/92 - date: 1720-1873
[from Scope and Content] 1790 William Crisp of Stoke by Nayland to James Alston of Bocking (Ess) in trust for John Parson of Boxford, with copy of a Fine
[from Scope and Content] 1829 Mortgage to George Alston of Nayland
FILE - 'Writings relating to a freehold cottage and 11a of land at Leavenheath in Stoke purchased of Mrs Holton and her daughter and conveyed to the uses of the settlement of 12 July 1860' - ref. HA 108/2/93 - date: 1769-1876
[from Scope and Content] 1799 Mortgage to James Alston of Bocking (Ess) in trust for Samuel Steward of Assington and Joseph Wass of Stoke by Nayland, with bond
FILE - 'Sir C R Rowley bart. Deeds relating to freehold premises at Stoke by Nayland Suffolk purchased of James Beardwell'1 - ref. HA 108/2/96 - date: 1829-1876
[from Scope and Content] 1866 Mortgage to Samuel Alston of Nayland
1. See James Beardwell - General Notes Dr Edward Liveing [98] of Nayland
FILE - 'Deeds relating to 3 cottages abutting upon the churchyard Stoke by Nayland and purchased of the trustees of Charles Worters' - ref. HA 108/2/104 - date: 1754-1888
[from Scope and Content] 1842 Cream to Samuel Alston of Nayland
[from Scope and Content] 1845 Alston to William Chisnall of Polstead
Deeds relating to Sir Richard Williams' estate purchased by Rowley in 1750
FILE - 'Deeds relating to L.11,000 mortgage late Gifford' - ref. HA 108/2/3 - date: 1700-1785
[from Scope and Content] 1777 Samuel Alston of Nayland, executor of Samuel Meadows of Halstead (Ess) and George Wheeler of Manningtree (Ess), grandson of Meadowes to the trustees of the will of Sir William Rowley
FILE - 'Deeds relating to the estates purchased of Joshua Rowley Esq and Mr Alston' - ref. HA 108/2/7 - date: 1648-1778
[from Scope and Content] 1776 Samuel Alston of Nayland, executor of Samuel Meddows of Halstead to Joshua Rowley
FILE - Bundles - ref. HA 108/2/8 - date: 1675-1827
[from Scope and Content] Alston, Church and Williams Stowe of Nayland to Rowley trustees
MISCELLANEOUS ESTATE PAPERS - ref. HA 108/9
FILE - Miscellaneous - ref. HA 108/9/6 - date: 1809-1837
item: 2 Copies of draft agreement between William Rowley and George Alston of Nayland concerning mortgage on a cottage in Stoke by Nayland - ref. HA 108/9/6/3 - date: 1810
item: Draft conveyance by lease and release from Sir William Rowley to George Alston of Nayland of garden containing 1 rood 18 perches in Nayland - ref. HA 108/9/6/4 - date: 1810
Ref A2A
PRO - C202 = Chancery: Petty Bag Office: Writ Files
C 202/184/10 Lincoln - William Hurd Robinson, Theophilus Williams; Northampton - Richard Buswell; Nottingham - William Cutts; Salop - William Egerton Jeffreys; Somerset - Moses Clarke, Thomas Skurray; Southampton - William Dibsdale Faithfull, John Hart, Francis Worsley; Stafford - Richard Allen, John Comberback, John Cruso, Thomas Fenton, Edward Whitehouse Jackson, Joseph Smith; Suffolk - George Alston, George William Brown Bohun, Samuel Buckle the younger; Sussex - John Woollett; Warwick - Ambrose Mainwaring; Westmorland - John Barrow; Worcester - Henry Roberts; York - Robert Scott; York E. 1796
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1. George Alston Snr born 1763: Nayland Suffolk.
His silhouette, George is articled as law clerk to his father
2. Alston Law Practice: 1796.
Charge out book 1830, Partnership accounts with son Samuel 1830, Land tax record Wissington 1798, Transfer to George Alston of a meadow in Nayland 1796.
3. George Alston Snr born 1763 died 1831: 1796.
Samuel Stevens articled as his clerk 1796, postumous surrender to the Manor of Assington by George's estate 1851
4. Notes thought to be by George ?: 25 Apr 1798.
Written untidily with corrections, on the back of a letter written to George Alston by George Downing 23 Apr 1798 is the following:
Sir By desire of Mr Jones I called upon you yesterday to settle the two-year . . . . . Lady Day cash which he expects you to pay to me immediately.
To Mr Lean
Sir Mr Dawson has fixed Monday next five o'clock in the afternoon to be at Hadleigh for . . . . . admit to the copyhold field of Rigatts Hall Manor
Nayland 25 April 98
Mr . . . . .
These appear to be drafts of letters emanating from George Alston's law office.
Ref George Downing [96]
5. Alston Law Office Work: Indenture, 19 Nov 1816.
Property in Birch St Nayland Mortgage
6. Conditional Surrender: Thomas Dyer to George Alston, 31 Dec 1827.
7. George Alston: Will and Bank of England Probate, 7 Feb 1818.
WILL of GEORGE ALSTON of NAYLAND
Dated 7th February 1818.
I George Alston of Nayland in Suffolk hereby revoking all former Wills whatsoever by me at any time therefore made DO make this my last Will in manner following - And do appoint my loving wife Anne and my brother Samuel Alston executrix and executor thereof.
I direct all my just debts to be duly paid.
NEXT I give devise and bequeath all my real and personal estate unto and to the use of my said wife Anne her heirs executors and administrators chargeable with the payment of five hundred pounds apiece to my six children George, Samuel, Edward, Charles, Margaretta and Maria to be paid to them respectively at their several and respective attainment of the age of twenty one years with lawful interest for the same in the meantime towards bringing them up and such part of the principal as may be necessary for their advancement in the world AND in case of the death of any of them under age and without lawful issue I give the legacy of him or her so dying unto the survivor to be equally divided between them ALSO chargeable with the payment of one annuity or clear yearly sum of thirty pounds so my unfortunate brother William Alston during his life by half yearly payments the first payment to be made at the end of six calendar months next after my decease
My desire is to be buried in the Church Yard of the Parish Church of Little Horksley in Essex.
In witness whereof I the said GEORGE ALSTON the testat my hand and seal this seventh day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and eighteen.
Geo. Alston (LS).
Signed sealed published and declared by the said testator as and for his Last Will and testament in the presence of us who in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have hereto inscribed our names as witnesses - J.G. Sargeant, Jn Perry, Charles Edward Perry.
I George Alston do hereby add this as a CODICIL to my Will hereunto annexed and desire that the same may be taken as part thereof. Whereas since the execution of any Will I have purchased a further part or share of a freehold estate at Lawford in Essex subject to a life interest therein Now I hereby give and devise all my fourth part of and in the said estate at Lawford an all other real estate which I have purchased since the execution of my Will unto my loving wife Anne her heirs and assigns for ever. AND whereas there is now . . . . . in my name in the three percent Consol Annuities L221.18.3 Stock transferred to one at the rate of 9% (sic) for L100 by the Rev. John Staples Hand for the amount of my son Samuels legacy of L100 and daughter Margaret's legacy of L100 left them by their Aunt Miss P Vanderzee Also the fourth part of the residue of her effects given by her to my daughter Maria of whose Will the said John Staples Hand is sole exectuor. Now my Will and devise is that on my son Samuel's attainment of the age of twentyone years there be paid or transferred to him one half part of the said sum of L221.18.3. stock also and accumilated interest whereon and likewise on the interest thereof after the sale of three pounds per centum per annum. And that on my daughter Margaret's attainment of the age of twentyone years or be married which shall first happen the remaining half part of the said L221.18.3. stock be paid or transferred to her together with the like accumulated interest thereon And that on my daughter Maria's attainments of the age of twentyone years or be married which shall first happen there be paid or transferred to her the said L714.7.7. stock tegether with the like accumulated interest thereon the said sum of L221.18.3. and L714.7.7. stock to be paid at the price the three percent consol (sic) shall be at the expectations mentioned for payment thereof.
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty ninth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty five.
Geo. Alston.
Signed sealed published and declared by the said George Alston as and of a Codicil to his Will in the presence of us who in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have hereto subscribed our names as witnesses.
J.G. Sargeant (Att. at Law)
Charles Edward Penny
Fred. Brown.
I George Alston of Nayland in Suffolk do hereby add this as a CODICIL to my Will and desire that the same may be taken as part thereof Namely I give to my two nephews Charles Alston and Henry Alston two hundred pounds apiece of lawful money of Great Britian to be paid to them or their executors or administrators at the end of six months next after my death.
Written with my own hand and seal this seventeenth day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty.
Geo. Alston.
Proved under L35,000 in London with two codicils the 8th March 1831 before the Court by the oath of Ann Alston widow the relict one of the executors to whom admin was granted being first . . . . . by . . . . . duly to administer . . . . . . . . . . to Samuel Alston the brother the other executor . . . . . . . . . .
PROB 11/1782.
Details of George's Probate held by the Bank of England
George married Mary CREEK [62], daughter of James CREEK of Little Horksley [4920] and Mary GUSTERSON [5352], on 22 May 1798 in Little Horkesley ESS. Mary was born in 1770, was baptised on 27 Feb 1770 in Little Horkesley ESS, died on 13 Apr 1801 in Little Horkesley ESS aged 31, and was buried on 20 Apr 1801 in Little Horkesley ESS. Another name for Mary was CREAKE.
General Notes:
Found in the Essex Record Office, Colchester on 10th February 2001.
LITTLE HORKSLEY M.I. pps 32/3
In memory of Mary the wife off George Alston of Nayland, Suffolk, Esq who died on the 13th day of April 1801 aged 33 years/ and of / Mary Hannah, inft daughter/ who died on the 13th day of September 1801.
Also on microfiche of the Parish Registers of St. Peter & St. Paul Little Horksley (DP 307/1/3)
Burials:- 1801, 20 April, Mary Alston, wife of George, gent, late Mary Creak, Sp'r.
6 Sept. 1801, Hannah Creak Alston, inft, daughter of George Alston, gentleman
Their marriage was by Lic and also recorded at Nayland
Mary is said to have married her second cousin George Alston but this is not shown in this Tree
Children from this marriage were:
i. Rev George Downing ALSTON [68] was born on 15 Nov 1799 in Nayland SFK, was baptised on 24 Jun 1802 in Nayland SFK, died on 18 Jan 1880 in Clifton, GLS aged 80, and was buried on 23 Jan 1880 in Studland Graveyard, DOR. The cause of her death was bronchitis.
ii. Mary ALSTON [87] was born on 13 Mar 1801 in Lt Horkesley ESS and died on 30 Aug 1801 in Lt Horkesley ESS.
George next married Anne Margaret VANDERZEE [60] on 24 May 1806 in Holborn St Andrew LND. Anne was baptised on 29 Mar 1776 in Gt Burstead ESS, died in Feb 1856 in Nayland SFK aged 79, and was buried on 22 Feb 1856 in Nayland SFK. The cause of her death was an aneurysm of the aorta. Another name for Anne was Margarett Anne VANDERZEE.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Margaretta ALSTON [66] was born on 1 Dec 1807, was baptised on 1 Jan 1808 in Nayland SFK, died in 1808 aged 1, and was buried on 8 Oct 1808 in Nayland SFK.
ii. Samuel ALSTON [63] was born on 6 Oct 1809, was baptised on 17 Nov 1809 in Nayland SFK, died on 17 Apr 1887 in Nayland SFK aged 77, and was buried on 23 Apr 1887 in Nayland Burial Ground. The cause of his death was chronic brights disease.
iii. Rev Edward ALSTON [64] was born on 13 Dec 1810, was baptised on 18 Jan 1811 in Nayland SFK, and died on 11 Nov 1871 in Witham ESS aged 60.
iv. Charles James ALSTON [65] was born on 25 Jun 1812, was baptised on 1 Aug 1812 in Nayland SFK, and died in 1878 aged 66.
v. Margaret ALSTON [67] was born in 1813 in Nayland SFK, was baptised on 27 Oct 1813 in Nayland SFK, died on 1 Mar 1902 in Nayland SFK aged 89, and was buried on 7 Mar 1902 in Nayland SFK.
5 vi. Maria ALSTON [2] (born on 19 Jul 1815, baptised Nayland SFK - died on 21 Mar 1871 in Nayland SFK)
11. Anne Margaret VANDERZEE [60], daughter of James VANDERZEE [126] and Philadelphia MEAD [1041], was baptised on 29 Mar 1776 in Gt Burstead ESS, died in Feb 1856 in Nayland SFK aged 79, and was buried on 22 Feb 1856 in Nayland SFK. The cause of her death was an aneurysm of the aorta. Another name for Anne was Margarett Anne VANDERZEE.
General Notes:
Anne was a beneficiary under her mothers Will.
Anne owned a small book, in the possession of the compiler, titled "First Flowers" by A Literary Amateur. It is a collection of facts, poetry, politics, social themes etc, one chapter is titled "Choice Scraps" which includes half a page on the Origin of Dueling; once required as a matter of course, if one was called a liar.
The fly leaf is endorsed Southend Essex Anne Alston July 19 - 33 and the price was 6/-
Anne was a spinster at her marriage, witnesses were George Vanderzee & Harriott Alston.
1839 Alston Court (Grooms) Rent Charge Apportionment: Proprietor and Occupier Mrs Ann Alstone.
164 Garden 26 Pchs
165 Premises 30 Pchs.
166 House & Garden 3 Roods 15 Pchs.
Anne's birth date uncertain, incorrectly shown 1795 or 6. It is sourced to Dennis Halliday.
Annie's Almanack/Diary 1853 Ref B/33 Refer Books section of this website.
1839 Alston Court (Grooms) Rent Charge Apportionment: Proprietor and Occupier Mrs Ann Alstone.
164 Garden 26 Pchs
165 Premises 30 Pchs.
166 House & Garden 3 Roods 15 Pchs.
Anne's Will is dated 13 Jul 1850. Proved London 16 Apr 1856. On file.
Annie's Almanack 1853 Ref B/33
Annie's birth date is sourced to the 1851 census
Anne was aged 79 at her death
Anne was a beneficiary under the will of Philadelphia Liveing as were her children Samuel, Margaret, and Maria Alston.
Settlement by Mrs Anne Alston
Dated 26th of April 1850.
This indenture made the 26th day of April 1850 between Anne Alston of Nayland in the County of Suffolk widow of the one part and Samuel Alston of Nayland aforesaid attorney Thomas Harrold Fenn also of Nayland surgeon and Robert Liveing Fenn of the National Debt Office gentleman of the other part. Whereas the said Anne Alston being desirous of providing for her son-in-law (sic) the Rev George Alston Clerk and his four children namely Alfred Alston Edward Alston Waldon Alston and William Alston after his decease she has transferred into the joint names of the said three several parties a sum of L3801.13.6 stock at L3 per cent consolidated Anns (sic) upon the trusts as are hereinafter declared concerning the same. Now this indenture witnesses that in further pursuance thereof it is hereby declared and agreed that they the said three several parties Samuel Alston Thomas Harold Fenn and Robert Liveing Fenn and the survivors or survivor of them his executors and administrators shall and will stand possessed and interested in the sum of L3801.13.6 L3 per cent consolidated Anns (sic) so transferred to them as aforesaid upon the trusts and to and for the intents and purposes hereinafter declared that is to say. In trust for the said Anne Alston during her life and after her decease upon trust to pay the dividends and annual produce of such monies as the same shall become due to the said George Alston during his life for his own use and benefit and after the decease of the said George Alston upon trust to pay one fourth part of such Stocks or Trust monies to each of the said four children when and as they severally attain the age of 24 years and if any or either of them shall depart this life before attaining that age then upon trust to pay the share of the one so dying unto the survivor or survivors in like manner as his original share is directed to be paid. And upon further trust to apply the interest and dividends of such trust monies for the benefit of the said four children of the said George Alston during their respective minorities. And upon further trust that they the said three several parties shall and may advance or appropriate at any time or times after the decease of the said George Alston all or any part or presumptive part of their share of the said trust monies or any . . . . . part or share for the maintenance education promotion in life or otherwise for the benefit of the said four children living . . . . . their respective minorities.
Power to appoint new trustees.
In witness Anne Alston Samuel Alston Thomas Harold Fenn Robert Liveing Fenn
Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of Margaret Alston
Ref: SRO Bury HA541/11253 (Copy on file)
Settlement by Mrs Anne Alston
Dated 4 October 1850
This indenture made the fourth day of October 1850 between Ann Alston of Nayland in the County of Suffolk widow of the one part and Samuel Alston of Nayland aforesaid attorney Thomas Harrold Fenn also of Nayland Surgeon and Robert Liveing Fenn of the National Debt Office gentleman of the other part. Whereas the said Ann Alston being desirous of providing for her son's the Rev Edward Alston and Charles James Alston after her decease she has transferred into the names of the said three several persons as trustees for the purpose here after declared the sum of L4616 Stock in the joint names of the said Sam Alston Thomas Harrold Fenn and Robert Liveing Fenn, and the sum of L3077 Stock 3.25 per cent anuities in the joint names of the said Robert Liveing Fenn and Thomas Harrold Fenn and Samuel Alston.
Now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance thereof it is hereby declared and agreed that they were said Samuel Alston Thomas Harrold Fenn and Robert Liveing Fenn and the survivors of them there executors and administrators . . . . . shall and will . . . . . said sums so transferred to them as aforesaid . . . . . to and for the interests and purposes hereinafter declared concerning the same that is to say -- in trust for the said Ann Alston during her life and after her decease upon trust to pay the dividends and annual produce of the said sums of L3077 for the maintenance of the said Edward Alston during his life and upon trust to pay the dividend and annual produce of the said sum of L4616 for the maintenance of the said Charles James Alston during his life. And after the decease of either or both of them . . . . . in trust to divide the share of him or there dying into four equal parts . . . . . to pay to the Rev George Alston the son-in-law (sic) of the said Ann Alston the other to the said Ann Alston the other to the said Margaret Alston a daughter of the said Ann Alston and the remaining fourth to Maria Fenn another daughter of the said Ann Alston provided that in case the said George Alston Samuel Alston Margaret Alston and Maria Fenn showed any or either of them depart this life before the said Edward Alston and Charles Alston respectively then upon trust to pay the portion or portions of any or either of them so dying to the survivors or survivor of them or the issue or children of such of them so dying leaving issue or children living. When either or both of the said principle moneys shall become payable such issue or children taking a parent share with any accruing share provided that in case any of such issue or children shall be absent on emmigration or otherwise unheard of for the space of three years next after any enquiry under these presents shall become requisite then the party or parties so absent shall be considered as deceased to all intents and purposes. Provided and upon trust that they the said trustees shall after the decease of the said Ann Alston at the expiration of every three years prepare an account in writing of the income and expenditure herein and if any surplus upon trust to divide the same between the said Samuel Alston Margaret Alston and Maria Fenn.
Power to appoint new trustees
Signed in witness thereof: Ann Alston, Sam Alston, Thomas Harrold Fenn, Robert Liveing Fenn
Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of Margaret Alston
These two indentures above have been transcribed from rough copies on file 2007. They are the root of the disagreements between Samuel Alston and his half brother Rev George Alston.
Ref Suffolk Record Office Bury St Edmunds HA541/11253 (Copy on File).
Medical Notes: Frances Brennan writes 2012 to advise Anne's cause of death.
1. Letter From Anne Alston to her Husband George: Abt 27 Apr 1809.
Mr Alston
Nayland
Suffolk
My dear George
I conclude you have had the goodness to consent to my request in prolonging my stay here a week or 10 days longer, in your next perhaps you may be able to fix a time for coming, I yesterday called upon
Mrs C - V. and insisted upon her calling, for me to go with her to Mr Chines this morning, unfortunately it happened to be the morning he went out to visit patients but would be at home with six at which hour we . . . . . an to go again, I thought you would be greatly disappointed if you did not hear from me to day, or what I would have deferred it to have sent you an account of Mr Chines opinion of her, she is going to spend the day and begs to be very kindly remembered to you and all at Stoke, we called with your letter into Mr Blair on Monday he would have written an answer but I told him I expected you in town he very politely offered himself to go anywhere with us that we liked which we thanked him for, do you think you could spare time to take us a little trip in our Chaise to Henley and Oxford if the weather was fine, Phila and I should like it very much, now I am here you must give me leave to stay as long as you can and make yourself comfortable under the idea of my doing so, I have not been to any of the amusements, I cannot give you so daily an account as you did me, let me hear from you on Tuesday, I think Sarah and Hannah had better keep the tent (sic) Beds in airing by sleeping in them as they will both be wanting when we return, I am afraid you have not been able to have anything down to the garden yet, but I hope you will if the weather will allow you.
Phila unites with me in kind love to yourself and all at Stoke and dear George ever
yours truly affectionately
A. Alston
Thursday
There will be a small parcel by the wagon one day next week which had better remain unpacked till I return
Written on three sides of one sheet, indistinct postmark reads 27 and possibly 1809, note on address page "1 May wife" Letter then may have been written 27 April 1809? Phila refered to is probably Anne's sister Philadelphia.
Original in the possession of Julia Readman 1999, copy in Fenn archive.
2. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Court St Nayland. Margarett is described as Anne aged 60 of independant means.
There are three servants in the house.
3. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, Town St Nayland SFK. Anne is described as the head of the family, an annuitant aged 75, born in Billericay ESS. Also resident in the house were family plus:
Hannah Cook, servant, aged 18. Priscilla Sargeant, servant, aged 18. Ref No 44.
4. Anne Margarey Vanderzee: Will, 13 Jul 1850, Nayland SFK.
THE WILL OF ANNE ALSTON OF NAYLAND.
Dated 13th July 1850.
I Anne Alston of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, Widow of George Alston late of Nayland aforesaid gentleman deceased do declare this to be my last Will. I appoint my son Samuel Alston my daughter Margaret Alston and Thomas Harrold Fenn Executors thereof.
First I give and devise unto my said son Samuel Alston all that my messuage wherein I now reside with the closes of meadowland . . . . .
To my daughter Margaret I give the sum L1000 to be paid within six months after my decease.
Further my will is and I direct a sum of L1000 to be invested in the names of the said Samuel Alston and Henry Tiffen gentleman of Sudbury in trust for my daughter Maria Alston
With respect to the third part of the residue of my personal estate, I give to my said son Samuel my furniture and implements of household, and a portion of the books, plate and linen.
I give to my daughter Margaret three hundred pounds with the furniture in her own rooms and part of the books plate and linen.
AS TO THE RESIDUE OF MY PERSONAL ESTATE AND EFFECTS After the payment of my testamentary expenses and the legacies hereby given I give and bequeath one third part thereof to the said Samuel Alston, and another third part thereof to the said Margaret Alston and the remaining third part thereof invested in the joint names of the said Samuel Alston and Henry Tiffen in trust for my said daughter Maria for her separate use during her life and after her death to her husband Thomas Harrold Fenn for his life and after both their deceases to divide the principle between the children of my said daughter Maria in equal shares and proportions. . . . . in them at twenty one. Provided and I declare it shall be lawful . . . . . during the minority of any or either of the child or children to apply the interest towards the maintainance and education of the said child, or children and also to advance any part of the presumptive shares of any or either of the same child or children in or towards his or her advancement in the world.
I give to Robert Liveing Fenn and the said Henry Tiffen 10 guineas apiece.
In witness hereof I have hereto set my hand this Thirteenth day of July 1850
Anna Alston.
In the presence of witnesses Martha Crook & Priscilla Sargent.
Proved at London the 16th April 1856.
Anne married George ALSTON [61] on 24 May 1806 in Holborn St Andrew LND. George was born on 11 Sep 1763, was baptised on 8 Oct 1763 in Nayland SFK, died on 4 Feb 1831 in Nayland SFK aged 67, and was buried on 5 Feb 1831 in Nayland SFK.
12. Dr George Charles JULIUS [51], son of William JULIUS [685] and Jane Smith EDWARDS [686], was born on 6 Jun 1775 in Nicola Town St Kitts, was baptised on 12 Aug 1775 in Christ Church Nicola Town St Kitts, died on 6 Nov 1866 in Maze Hill Hse. St Leonards On Sea Eng. aged 91, and was buried in Church In The Wood Hollington Nr St Leonards.
General Notes:
Copied from the Family Bible of G C Julius.
George Charles Julius - born June 6th 1775 at Nichola Town in the island of St Christopher. Married Sept 14 1795 at Shoreditch Church in the City of London. (The transcriber is unidentified but these dates have been adopted)
Baptisms: Christchurch Nichola Town St Kitts.
1775 August 12 Geo Charles s. of Wm & Jane JULIUS born 2nd June last (1775).
From a transcription by Mr & Mrs John Bromley c1925 and typed by Col H R Phipps, Bratton Lodge, Bratton Seymour, Wincanton, SOM. Presented to the SOG London 23 Nov. 1934. As searched 1984 by A Fysh, on file, and 2011 by J Christensen.
Edinburgh University.
George Julius of Somerset was a medical student there for three sessions although he did not graduate.
1792-3 Anatomy and Surgery, Chemistry, Botany, Royal Infirmary.
1793-4 Theory and Practice of Medicine, Royal Infirmary will stop
1794-5 Anatomy and Surgery, Chemistry, Practice of Medicine, Materia Medica, Clinical Lectures.
Julius George CCS 1797.
AS 10 July 1797
Surgeon 30 April 1809
R 28 April 1812
In CG of 8 March 1798 name given as Jullings.
Ref: Role of Indian Medical Service 1615-1930 Crawford London 1930
Date of commission as Asst Surgeon 10 July 1797.
Date of commission as surgeon 30 April 1809.
Nominated by - Thornton Esq. Admitted to service.
Granted furlough to Europe 1809 on PA
Retired 28 April 1812.
Ref: Detailed records of Bengal Service L/MIL/10/71
1806 Shahabad
1809 Civil Station Shahbad
1810 on furlough
Ref: India Register.
Apothecary to the Royal Household at Kew 9 Jul 1812 to 1836
JULIUS JOTTINGS. April 1900 No 2.
REMINISCENCES OF GEORGE CHARLES JULIUS. 1773 - 1866
We are indebted to Mrs Arabella E PARKINSON (nee Quilter) for the following: Some of my happy early days were spent at the Old Palace, Richmond, Surrey. (My grandfather) used often to take me out with him on his rounds.
When driving to Kew we sometimes met the King, who would stop his carriage and say, " Dr. Julius, there is nothing in the window,"or,'' Yes, you must call today and enquire" This alluded to a piece of putty placed as a signal to save my grand father's time, and that he might know he was, or was not wanted, and His Majesty George IV., being of an inquisitive turn of mind amused himself by watching this signal and making enquiries. Many of (my grandfather's) patients lived in Richmond Park, Lord Sidmouth and others and I have read there by moonlight whilst waiting for him.
One old countess used to accuse him of neglecting her, if her bill did not come to 100 pounds per annum. Another of his lady patients, also a countess, never paid him at all, but left the matter to her executors, and it then came to 700 pounds.
He was the most punctual of men, and when he rang, as was his custom, every morning for family prayers, we had only time to rush from the landing to the dining room, or we should be too late. He scarcely ever missed church, and his behaviour in it was most devout. Of course, with his large practice, the largest, I believe, out of London, he was often called away, and his footman was told to stand in one place in the porch where he could see him, and so come away without alarming or disturbing the congregation. He was a most temperate man, drinking only water, and as a rule no food between breakfast and late dinner. He had a weakness for sugar, and often brought me a piece from someone's basin, left, I suppose, on purpose for him.
I remember often seeing Sir Benjamin Brodie at my grandfather's, and one thing they said made a lasting impression on my young mind:-" It is such a comfort, when we lay our heads on our pillows at night, to feel how much we have done for our fellow-creatures during the day."
It would appear that George Julius, and Arthur George Onslow, 3rd Earl Onslow were friends, and this association continued with George's sons George and Frederick.
This relationship may be rooted in the fact that both the Julius and the Onslow families were invested as Planters in the West Indies from the 18th C. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146648885
The Onslow family had a connection with New Zealand, the 4th Earl being Governor 1889-1892. In 1892 he bought back to Clandon Park,West Clandon, SRY, a Maori meeting house (Hinemihi) which had survived the Mt Tarawera eruption.
Ref https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/clandon-park/features/hinemihis-time-at-clandon-park
THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXTRACT FROM "GENEALOGY" BY FLORENCE STEVENS.
Chapter VII. We now turn to the history of the sixth child of William and Jane Julius. This was George Charles, and well do I remember him A tall stately old man, with very white hair, blue eyes and a rather shambling gait. "The Doctor" he was always called by his family.
He could be severe and some people were rather afraid of him. He was 6 feet, spare and abstemious. He was born on June 6th 1775 in the Island of St. Kitts and accompanied his parents to England in 1779, as did also his eldest sister Jane, then 22 years old and Robert and Nancy, and possibly his two other sisters. After his fathers's death a year later, his mother moved to 15, Pritchard St. Bristol.
George Charles was sent to Eton (* see below) as his father's Will provided. Money matters were not easy when he grew up rumour says owing to the dishonesty of Trustees, and whether he went to Cambridge or not is not certain.
It was imagined by the family that he was sent to the Rev Jonathan Gilder, Rector of Aspeden in Herts. to be tutored, but a comparison of dates shews that it could not have been the case as George Charles Julius was only about 11 or 12 when Jonathan Gilder died in 1787.
George Julius soon settled his domestic life by marrying at the age of 20 one of Gilder's daughters Isabella Maria, aged 21. It was an early but very happy marriage. This was in the year 1795, just when Napoleon was beginning his stormy career and disturbing the peace of Europe, and this doubtless affected the Julius finances.
We do not know how early he determined to become a Doctor, but in 1796 he was attending Sir Astley Cooper's lectures in St. Thomas's Hospital. He received his Certificate from Sir A. Cooper in May 1796 and in July his first child Emily was born at Bristol.
The young couple decided on venturing to India where George was certain of a practice, leaving the baby Emily in charge of her, grandmother and Aunt Jane in Bristol. It must have been a real adventure in those days of Anglo Indian life. One of Mrs. Julius sisters accompanied them, and they remained in India till 1809 when little Emily always nicknamed "Pem" was about 13 years old.
When they returned to Europe in 1809 the European war was in full swing and they could only travel with a convoy. The story is current that when Dr. Julius had taken tickets for the voyage he went off up country to settle business and during his absence his wife met the Captain of the vessel who swore so dreadfully at every turn that she could not travel with him and cancelled the agreement, getting tickets on another boat. During the voyage a terrible , storm came on near the coast of Africa, and the ship, which I believe was the Chichester in command of the swearing Captain, went down with all on board including 250 children.
The vessels stopped at St. Helena for some days on the way home, and some of the family went on shore. I subjoin the copy of a bill sent in to Mr. Julius. Bill made out to Dr. G. C. Julius when stopping at St. Helena on his way from India in 1809.
Probably William did not land as he was only two years
30th April 1809.
Board etc. L1 lOs. Od.
Ditto on child. 15/-
1st May.
Board. L1. 10. 0
Ditto two children. L1. 10. 0
Board from 2nd May to 8th inc. at 30s. L10.10. 0
Three tickets to the Play. L1. 10. 0
50 Apples at 6d. L1. 5. 0
A Pie 5/-
20 Loaves of Bread at 9d. 15/-
27 lbs . of Flour at 4d. 9/-
Total L19. 19. 0
Received J. Barnes from Mr. Julius L19.19s.Od St. Helena 1809.
The family seem to have gone to Mrs. William Julius on landing.
P Hatfield Eton College
John Hill
Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: George Julius
Apologies for the delay in replying . . . . .
He does not seem to have attended Eton, though I have to say that before 1791 we do not have a complete list of boys, so it is possible he did come here but no lists survives for the period of his stay. However, he did not attend King's either, which in those days was almost entirely the preserve of Etonians, so I suspect that his father's Will was not followed in this repect.
P. Hatfield, College Archivist
JULIUS JOTTINGS, JANUARY 1900. No 1.
Grandpapa was a very fine old gentleman, over 6 foot, with marked features and rather a stern face, but a pleasant smile, and stately, courteous manners of the old school. Granny as she was fondly called by her devoted grandchildren, was of medium height, in the youth had auburn hair, was gifted with a keen sense of humour, and found a fund of stories to which it was our great delight to listen.
My earliest recollection of Grandpapa and Granny was on the occasion of a family dinner at the Old Palace, about the year 1850, near Christmas. The Archibald Julius and two of their children were there, the Fredericks and several of their party, Edric and Herbert Julius, Cameron Quilter, and many more.
The three latter dressed up as old women, and were most amusing; we also had a Punch and Judy show, the first I had ever seen. Such large family gatherings seem now to be things of the past. The next time I remember to have seen Granny was when she came to stay with us at Wrecclesham Vicarage. It was very hot weather, and during the absence of nurse from the room, my elder sister and I took off the baby's things, got our paint boxes, and painted her in rainbow coloured stripes. I shall never forget Granny's peels of laughter when the infant was brought for her to inspect.
When Grandpapa was a boy he was heir to considerable property, but his trustees were dishonest, and by the time he became of age it had melted away. He was sent to he tutored by the Rev. Jonathan Gilder, Rector of Aspeden, Hertfordshire, and Vicar of Layston, and he married one of the daughters; she was aged twenty one and he twenty; they were married on the 14th September 1795, and went to India in 1799. . . . . (Story about Isabella saving an Indian woman from sati (suttee). . . . .
On an occasion when he was in India Grandpapa was invited to a feast given by some native chiefs. At the last minute he was called away to visit a patient. Every European at that meal died from poison within a few hours!
When they left India Grandpapa took tickets for the passage on board the "Chichester" (this, I believe, was the ship) then went up country to wind up his business. During his absence Granny heard a very bad report of the captain, that he ill-treated his men and could not speak without an oath. She determined she would not travel in his ship, so she took tickets in another which sailed under the same convoy; it was in the time of war with the French. Of course Grandpapa was very vexed and angry at such a whim. However, Granny had her own way.
The vessels sailed, a party of about five ships. There was a fearful storm off Mauritius, and the "Chichester' went down. There were 250 children on board, being sent home by their parents, five of one family well known to the Julius.
In 1810 they settled in Bristol, and in 1814 came to the Old Palace, Richmond where they lived forty one years, and Grandpapa became partner to Sir David Dundas, who lived at Queensberry House and attended the Royal Family then living at Kew. George the IVth gave Grandpapa some candlesticks, silver plated on copper, which are now in the possession of his granddaughter, Mrs. Hull, of Earls Mount, Redhill.
Part of this time his eldest son, Dr George Julius, was practising with his father, and for his services to a young Princess was presented by King William the IVth with a silver vase, dated September 18, 1833, which is now in the possession of his grandson, Bertie Julius, of Tilford.
Of my grandparents interesting circle of friend, during these years, others are more competent to speak than I, but I observed in the memoirs of the late Canon Hoare that he reckoned them among his special friends.
In 1855 they retired to Wrecclesham, as they thought, for good, but Grandpapa missed the life and smooth pavements of a town, so in 1862 they once more moved, this time to St. Leonards, where, at Maze Hill House there days were ended. He died in 1866 at the age of 91, and she in 1867 in her 93rd year. They were buried in the churchyard at Hollington. The last remaining of their children, Aunt Annie, widow of Colonel Deverill, died in May 1898 aged 84.
Wishing that this brief fragment had been more complete,
I remain, dear Editor,
Yours faithfully,
M. Louisa Brewin.
NOTES BY MRS JENIFER SHELLSHEAR, (nee Julius).
George spent his early childhood in the West Indies. He was in England when his father died. In 1792, the Edinburgh University Medical School records describe him as "of Somerset," so until then he may have been living with his mother in Bristol. He studied at Edinburgh 1792-95, though apparently he did not graduate. Then from 27th Sept 1795 for a period of perhaps 12 months, he acted as dresser to the surgeon. Mr Henry Cline.
About a year later 10th July 1797 George was appointed Ass. Surgeon to serve in the Bengal Presidency by the Honourable East India Company. He returned to England on furlough in 1809, returning finally in 1812. During his time in India, 5 more children were born, one of whom, a son, died there. The Missionary Chronicle of March 1821 affords a small glimpse of the family's life in India, describing how Mrs. Julius while stationed at Arrah in 1804, courageously saved the life of an Indian women who was being forced to commit suicide.
In 1810 George settled in Bristol, then by 1812, seems to have established himself at the Old Palace, Richmond where for sometime he was partner to Sir. DAVID DUNDAS also practicing in Richmond. On 9th July 1812 was appointed apothecary to the King's Household at Kew, a post he held till 1836, thus serving George III, George IV, William IV.
During the years he attended the Royal Family, several pieces of plate etc. were variously presented to him by King George IV and King William IV, and are now in possession of various members of the family. He was apparently successful and well liked and with one of the largest practices outside London.
He worked in Richmond until his retirement in 1855.
ROLL OF INDIAN MEDICAL SERVICES 1615 - 1930. (D. G. Crawford - London 1930)
GEORGE CHARLES JULIUS
CCS 1797
AS. 10 July 1797 (In CG of 8th March 1798 name given as Jullings)
Surg. 30 April 1809
R 18 April 1812
Deaths.
On the 6th inst at Mazehill House, St Leonards on Sea, G. C. Julius Esq M.D. late of Richmond Surrey in his 92nd year.
The Times Friday November 9, 1866.
Will of George Charles Julius Doctor of Medicine.
Dated 14 September 1863
This is the last Will and Testament of me George Charles Julius late of Richmond in the County of Surrey but now of Maze Hill House St Leonards-on-the-Sea in the County of Sussex Doctor of Medicine I appoint my dear daughter Emily Julius Spinster and my dear son Alfred Alexander's Julius Solicitor executrix and executor of this my Will and I devise that all my just debts and funeral and testamentary expenses and the charges of proving and carrying into execution of this my Will may be fully paid and satisfied.
I give to my dear wife Isabella Maria Julius for her absolute use all my money that may be in my house and at my bankers at the time of my decease and I give to each of my sons and daughters who may be then living the sum of twenty pounds for mourning to be paid to them respectively as soon as convenient each of them my said daughters who shall be married receiving the same for her separate use and her discharge being sufficient for the same I give to my said wife for her life the use and enjoyment of all my household goods and furniture plate linen glass books pictures prints and other effects in and about my dwelling house and premises where I shall be residing at the time of my death and after my said wife's decease I give all and singular my said household goods and furniture linen glass books pictures prints and other effects unto my said daughter Emily Julius for her own absolute use I give to my faithful servant Joseph Bell if he shall be in my service at my decease the sum of twenty Guineas to be paid him as soon as convenient and also a clear annuity for his life of fifteen pounds to be payable to him quarterly from my decease and subject as aforesaid I give and bequeath to my said executrix and executor all the rest and residue of my Estate and effects whatsoever and wheresoever (including my government stock and securities and my shares in the bank of Bengal in the East Indies) upon trust to convert into money the same or any part thereof that shall not consist of money or securities for money and to layout and invest in their names any monies so to arise and be produced in government or real securities at interest or upon any debentures or securities of any Canal or Railway Company incorporated by Act of Parliament or Charter but with full power to continue my said government stocks and securities and my said shares in the Bank of Bengal respectively as the same shall be at my decease in the same state of investment and continue to fund to alter and transpose the said trust securities or any of them so long and as often as they my said trustees shall in their discretion think proper and shall stand and be possessed of all and singular the said trust premises and the interest dividends and annual proceeds thereof upon trust for the intents and purposes following that is to say upon trust after satisfying the said annuity to pay the interest dividends and annual proceeds of the said trust premises as they shall arise and become payable unto my said beloved wife during the term of her natural life and from and after her decease all my said shares in the said Bank of Bengal (of which I have eighteen shares valued at four thousand rupees each making together seventy two thousand rupees) on the stocks funds and securities for the time being upon which the proceeds of the sale thereof shall be invested shall be upon trust to divide the same into seventy two equal parts or shares of which thirty of such seventy two equal shares or shares shall be for the absolute use and benefit of my son William Mavor Julius thirty other of such seventy two equal parts or shares shall be for the absolute use and benefit of my said daughter Emily Julius and the remaining nine other of such seventy two equal parts or shares shall be for the absolute use and benefit of my son Archibald Aeneas Julius and subject as aforesaid I direct and declare that the rest and residue of my estate and effects shall be for my said daughter Emily Julius to whom I give the same for her absolute use and benefit
I desire to express that in the division which I have made of my property by this my Will I have taken into consideration the circumstances of my several dear children some of them being well provided for but for all of whom I have an equal affection provided always and I direct that in case the said trustees or either of them or any future trustee or trustees to be appointed as hereinafter mentioned shall die or be desirous of retiring from or shall become incapable of acting in the said powers or shall desire to increase the number of such trustees it shall be lawful for the trustees or trustee on retiring or continuing on to act in the said Trusts by any writing under their her or his hands or hand to nominate any new trustee or trustees for the purposes of this my Will and when and so often as any trustee or trustees shall be so nominated as aforesaid all and singular the trusts funds and premises shall thereupon be transferred and assigned so as that the same shall be effectually vested in the surviving or continuing trustee or trustees and such additional or new trustee or trustees jointly or otherwise as the case may require upon the trusts herein before created or declared and for the time being subsisting concerning the same respectively and every such additional and new trustee shall and may act in the execution of the said trusts as fully and effectually in all respects as if he had been originally nominated a trustee in and by this my Will and I hereby revoke all my former Wills
In witness whereof I the said George Charles Julius have to this my last Will and Testament set and subscribed my hand this fourteenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty three.
George C Julius
Signed by the said George Charles Julius the testator as and for his last Will and Testament in the presence of us present at the same time who in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have here unto subscribed our names as witnesses.
Jas Geo Langham solicitor Hastings
Fred A Langham solicitor same place.
This Is a Codicil to my Will dated the fourteenth day of September one thousand eight hundred and sixty three whereas by my said Will I gave and bequeathed to my executrix and executor herein named all the rest and residue of my estate and effects whatsoever and wheresoever including my government stock and securities and my shares in the Bank of Bengal in the East Indies upon the trusts therein particularly mentioned and I thereby declared that after the decease of my dear wife the trustees of my said Will should stand possessed of nine seventy two parts or shares in the Bank of Bengal (of which I had and now have eighteen shares valued at four thousand rupees each making together seventy two thousand rupees) or the stocks funds or securities for the time being upon which the proceeds of the sale thereof should be invested in a trust for the absolute use and benefit of my son Archibald Aeneas Julius now I do hereby revoke and make void so much of the said trusts as relate to the seventy two equal parts or shares in the said Bank of Bengal or the stocks funds or securities for the time being upon which the proceeds of the sale thereof shall be invested thereby declared to be for the absolute at use and benefit of my said son Archibald Aeneas Julius and in lieu thereof I do hereby declare that the trustees for the time being of my said Will shall stand possessed of the seventy two equal parts or shares after the decease of my said wife in trust for my dear daughter Ann Spencer Deverell widow for her own absolute use and benefit But in all other respects I hereby confirm my said Will and the trusts thereby declared as witness my hand this twenty fourth day of June one thousand eight hundred and sixty four
George C Julius
Signed by the said George Charles Julius the testator as and for a codicil to his last will and Testament in the presence of us present at the same time who in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have here unto subscribed our names as witnesses
Jas Geo Langham solicitor Hastings
Fred A Langham solicitor same place.
Proved at London with a codicil 12 December 1866 by the oath of Emily Julius spinster the daughter of the surviving executor to whom administration was granted.
Julius George Charles 12 Dec 1866
The Will with Codicil of George Charles Julius M.D. formerly of Richmond in the county of Surrey but late of Maze Hill House St Leonards-on-Sea SSX who died 6 Nov 1866 at Maze Hill House was proved 12 Dec 1866 by Emily Julius spinster and daughter at under L10,000.
Ref: National Probate Calendar
Research Notes:
Newly discovered image of George Julius courtesy of Prof John R. W. Glauert.
West Indian Book Plates.
Caribbeana Vol 3 Pg A76.
653. G.C. Julius. Arm. spade shield (F., 16,771)
Arms: Argent, a fess Azure between three stars.
Crest: A star. Motto: VIRTUTE ET INDUSTRIA FLORESCO.
Geo. Chas. Julius of the Old Palace Richmond, M.D. mar 1795 Isabella Maria, dau. of Rev Jonathon Guilder, and died 1866, aged 91.He had 1. Geo Chas Julius and 2. Fred. Guilder Julius, born 1811, who married Ellen Smith, and died 1886. (Lieut-Col H W Pook)
RICHMOND CENSUS 1841.
George Julius 60yrs M.D.
Isabella Julius 55yrs
Emily Julius 35yrs
William Julius 30yrs Army Captain.
Alfred Julius 25yrs Solicitor.
Archibald Julius 20yrs Student at Cambridge.
Fanny Maria Hull states in Julius Jottings No1 that George (her grandfather) inherited property on St Kitts and liberated all the slaves
The circumstances surrounding George's medical training require clarification.
RICHMOND PALACE - THE MEMORIES OF CHURCHILL JULIUS.
Extract from "A Power in the Land" by G.&A. Elworthy.
"The little garden attached to the house opened into the beautiful garden at the Old Palace, being a portion of the ancient Palace of Sheen built by Henry VII, in which Queen Elizabeth lived and died.
Of the State Apartments nothing is left. The part in which we lived, rented by my grandfather, GEORGE CHARLES from the Government on a 99 year lease at about 1814, was known as Wardrobe Court". Even today, when the house which once belonged in its entirety to the Julius family is now divided into three residences, the atmosphere is as redolent of history as it ever was, and by the courtesy of the present owners we were able to see for ourselves some of the magnificence that still remains. The beauty of the paneling, the charm of the garden, the sunlight slanting through the vast windows- such impressions give one the feeling of having stepped momentarily into the past. Wardrobe Court, dating back to the 15th Century when it served as the wardrobe of Henry VIIs Richmond Palace, was originally built with heavy timbered exterior walls.
Christopher Wren, in about 1730, completely enclosed the original building. Richmond Palace is rich in history, having been originally a royal residence in the time of Edward I. Anne, consort to Richard II died here in 1394; deeply affected by her death, the king, according to Holinshead, caused the palace to be thrown down and defaced. Henry V, however, restored it to its former magnificence. Henry VII, in 1492 held a Grand Tournament there. In 1499 it was almost consumed in fire, but Henry rebuilt the palace and gave it the name of Richmond.
Cardinal Wolsey frequently resided here; and Hall, in his Chronicles, says that "when the common people, are especially such as had been servants of Henry VII, saw the cardinal keep house in a manor royal at Richmond, which that monarch so highly esteemed, it was a marvel to hear how they grudged saying". " So the butcher's dogge doth lie in the manor of Richmond!" Queen Elizabeth I was a prisoner at Richmond during the reign of her sister Mary; after she came to the throne, the palace was her favourite residence, and here she died in 1603.
On an exterior wall, we are reminded that Upon this site formerly stood the Palace of Richmond built by Henry VII in 1501. A Royal Residence first occupied this site in 1126 The village of Richmond was originally known as Sheen.
THE TIMES - Saturday January 24 1824 pg. 4 col. c.
"Extensive Robbery - Between five and eight o'clock on the evening of Tuesday last, the house of George Charles Julius Esq., at Richmond, was burglariously entered, and robbed of a check for L.200, some Edinburgh one pound notes, a twenty-pound and ten-pound note of the Bank of England, and several five pound notes, a large number of sovereigns and some silver, a sealed letter containing a fine-pound note, and several sovereigns, with which the robbers got clear off".
Queen Square.
Yesterday information was received at this office that on the evening of Tuesday last, the house of George Charles Julius, Esq, Richmond, Surrey, was broken into by thieves, and robbed of property to the amount of several hundred pounds. The robbers effected an entrance at the back of the premises, and in the first instance rifled all the cupboards, closets, etc, below stairs, from thence they proceeded to the parlour, and forced open the bureaus, desks, etc, and took away a red morocco leather pocketbook, similar to those used by Bankers clerks, which contained a cheque drawn by Dr Willis on Messrs Drummond and Co., for L200, also some Edinburgh L1 notes, of the house of Forbes and Co., a Bank of England note for L20, some for L10, and several for L5. They also found a long striped green bag full of sovereigns, and a bag of silver, together with a letter from Mr Erskine, sealed, in which was enclosed a L5 note. A full description of all the property stolen has been given to the police, and a reward of L50, is offered for the apprehension of any of the robbers, who as yet have evaded pursuit.
Ref: Morning Chronicle Saturday, 24 January 1824.
Daring Robbery.
Information was yesterday lodged at the Mary-le-bone Police Office of an extensive robbery, in the house of Mr George Charles Julius, at Richmond. Hawker, the officer, was dispatched to make enquiries, and, on his return, stated to the magistrates, that the thieves, by some means unknown (it is supposed by seizing the advantage of the Hall door being left open, and opening of the library door with a false key), plundered some of the drawers, etc, of the following cash and notes; a cheque for L200 on the Bank of Messrs Drummond and Co., drawn by Dr John Willis, and payable to the order of a lady named Hodgson; some notes for L1 each, on the bank of Forbes and Co., Edinburgh; two Bank of England notes for L20, and L10, several L5 notes which were enclosed in a pocketbook; a small bag, containing some L5 notes, and a quantity of gold and silver monies, a sealed letter, known to be from a gentleman named Erskine, with a L5 note and a few sovereigns enclosed. With this very large booty the villains gone away, without giving the slightest alarm, and the robbery was not discovered until the next day.
From the regularly systematic manner in which this robbery was completed the robbers must have been experienced, and well acquainted with the premises. A large reward (L50) is offered for the apprehension of the burglars. The neighbourhood of Richmond and Kew has of late been subject to the visitation of a gang of villains, who have accomplished many very extensive nocturnal depredations.
Ref: Morning Advertiser Saturday, 24 January 1824.
Incorrect data
George Charles Julius was recorded in the IGI, London records as being born abt 1770 at The Old Palace Richmond Surrey? further there is an entry George Julius (Adult aged 22) christening March 1796 St Botolph Without Aldgate London. Batch C006338, Source 0370932 Film Printout 6901255.
Guildhall Library: Records of Sun Fire Office [MS 11936/515]
Catalogue Ref. SUN
FILE - Policy register - ref. MS 11937/515 - date: 1861-1862
item: [no title] - ref. MS 11936/515/1061404 - date: 30 May 1827
Insured: George Charles Julius, Richmond, Surrey, esq.
Sun Fire Office, 1710-1891
Exchange House Fire Office, 1708-1710
Sun Insurance Office Ltd, 1891-1959
Sun Alliance Group, 1959-1996
Royal and Sun Alliance, 1996-
To find out more about the archives described below, contact Guildhall Library
A2A.
George is untraced in 1851 census, was he in Europe?
Tribute to David Dundas Bt.
To David Dundas, Bart.
Surgeon to the King etc
A man who relying on his outstanding talents and his own merits, attained the peak of honour and won the foremost men of the world to his friendship to a man who is justly to be admired by the medical world because of his great experience in the science of healing and because of his nature which is filled with many attractions of charm and humanity a man most beloved by his friends and all. To him the author mindful of all the benefits heaped upon him and of the friendship of which he is proud wishes with the greatest respect these first fruits of his labour to be sacred as a monument insufficient to repay him as he ought.
(Dundas (1749-1826) was surgeon general to the King from 1792 and was also made Royal Household Apothecary in 1792. He was a fine surgeon, and was made 1st Baronet Richmond in 1815.)
In 1812 George followed his Partner David Dundas Bt. as:
Apothecary to the Royal Household at Kew.
9 July 1812 - Julius, G. C.
Apothecaries 1660 - 1837
The apothecaries to the person and the apothecaries to the household were both appointed by lord chamberlain's warrant. In many cases appointments were embodied in letters patent under the great seal.
Originally there was one apothecary to the person. Two served from 1685 to 1820 when the number was again reduced to one. The remuneration attached to the offices varied from time to time. In 1660 the sole apothecary received L242 15s consisting of a salary of L115 and board wages of L127 15s. In 1685 both apothecaries were granted salaries of L500. In 1702 one apothecary received L372 5s and the other L327. By 1711/12 the salaries had been fixed at L320 5s and L160.
The office of apothecary to the household was held singly until 1727. Thereafter it was usually held jointly, two occupants serving 1727/62, three 1762/66 and two 1766/74, 1778/83 and from 1820. Originally the remuneration amounted to L100 consisting of wages of L40 and board wages of L60. In 1702 the salary was L160. By 1711/12 it had been fixed at L106 13s 4d. early in the period, all apothecaries were allowed riding wages and, sometimes, lodgings.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/office-holders/vol11/pp170-173
George was a Trustee for the estate of a John Deane (died c1821) a Judge in Madras, one of Deanes illegitimate Eurasian children, Charles was living with George and his family in Richmond in 1815.
Ref: R Wallace
1. Images of George Charles Julius over the years:
2. Richmond Surrey: Views of the Palace and 1 Portland Terrace.
See tour of The Wardrobe Court in Books section of this website.
Richmond (Sheen) Palace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Palace
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6699557/Walk-wardrobe-old-Richmond-Palace-sale-4million-south-west-London.html
3. Royal Humane Society Silver Medal: Silver Medal Awarded to George Julius, 1796. 4. Dr George Charles Julius: Gift from King George IV, After 1810, London. 5. George C Julius: Form record of Edinburgh study and Royal Appointment., 1812. 6. George Charles Julius: Memorabilia from "The Wardrobe Court" Richmond., c 1820's, The garden of The Wardrobe Court, Sheen (Richmond) Palace. 7. George Charles Julius: Julius family memoriabilia, Cir 1830. 8. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Old Palace Yard Richmond SRY. George is recorded as M.D. aged 60 not born in SRY
9. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, Old Palace Yard Richmond SRY. George is recorded as head of house married aged 75 a Physician Edinburgh not practising born St Kitts.
10. Census: England, 8 Apr 1861, Richmond Lodge Farnham SRY. George is recorded as married aged 85 head of household, M.D. not practising, born St Kitts West Indies. Also in the house were four servants.
11. Dr George Charles Julius: Short History of Richmond Lodge/Wrecclesham Grange, Cir 1855. 12. Ada Frances Hunt: George Charles Julius link with George IV, Cir 1942. 13. George Charles Julius: Note from Earl Onslow, Unknown. George married Isabella Maria GILDER [52] on 14 Sep 1795 in St Leonards Shoreditch Church London. Isabella was baptised on 8 May 1774 in Aspenden Herts., died on 4 Jan 1867 in Maze Hill Hse. St Leonards On Sea Eng. aged 92, and was buried in Church In The Wood Hollington Nr St Leonards.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Emily JULIUS [775] was born on 2 Jul 1796 in Bristol SOM, was baptised on 10 Aug 1796 in St Michaels Bristol SOM, and died on 31 Jul 1876 in Maze Hill Hse. St Leonards On Sea Eng. aged 80.
ii. Richard Henry JULIUS [4469] was born in 1798 in Berhampur Bengal (Registered In London), was baptised on 29 Dec 1798 in Berhampur Bengal, died on 20 Jul 1799 in Berhampur Bengal aged 1, and was buried on 20 Jul 1799 in Berhampur Bengal.
iii. Arabella Maria JULIUS [777] was born on 16 Feb 1800 in Berhampur Bengal (Reg In London), was baptised on 1 Jul 1801, died on 3 Jun 1885 in Beverley YKS aged 85, and was buried on 8 Jun 1885 in Canwick Lincolnshire.
iv. Amelia Cowell "Minnie" JULIUS [779] was born on 3 Apr 1802 in Burhampur India (Reg In London), was baptised on 25 Oct 1803 in Arrah India, died on 6 Jan 1831 in Richmond SRY aged 28, and was buried on 13 Jan 1831 in Richmond Cemetery.
v. Dr George Charles JULIUS M.D. [781] was born on 9 Aug 1804 in Assam Dist. Sharhabad Behar India, died on 1 Dec 1885 in Claremont Hse. Nr Tilford SRY aged 81, and was buried in Tilford Churchyard Nr Farnham SRY.
vi. Major William Mavor JULIUS [797] was born on 14 Feb 1807 in Shahabad Behar India ( Reg In London), was baptised on 5 Oct 1807, died on 18 May 1876 in Black Lake Cottage Lobswood Manor Tilford SRY aged 69, and was buried in Tilford Churchyard Nr Farnham SRY.
6 vii. Dr Frederick Gilder JULIUS MD FRCS [50] (born on 28 Feb 1811 in Old Palace Yard Richmond SRY - died on 4 Jan 1886 in 4 Portland Tce The Green Richmond SRY)
viii. Alfred Alexander JULIUS [798] was born on 4 Sep 1812 in Richmond SRY, was baptised on 6 Nov 1812 in St Mary Magdalen Richmond SRY, and died on 2 Sep 1865 in Stanley Lodge Ship Lane St Mary Mortlake London. aged 52.
ix. Anne Spencer JULIUS [825] was born on 19 Nov 1814 in Richmond SRY, was baptised on 6 Feb 1815 in St Mary Magdalen Richmond SRY, died on 28 May 1898 aged 83, and was buried on 28 May 1898 in France.
x. Rev Henry Richard JULIUS M.A. [776] was born on 30 Jun 1816 in Richmond SRY, was baptised on 14 Apr 1818 in St Mary Magdalen Richmond SRY, died on 27 Mar 1891 in Woodcroft Red Hill SRY aged 74, and was buried on 2 Apr 1891 in St John Church Yard Redhill SRY.
xi. Rev Archibald Aeneas JULIUS [847] was born on 9 Jan 1819 in Old Palace Richmond SRY, was baptised on 26 Feb 1819 in St Mary Magdalen Richmond SRY, died on 4 Mar 1895 in Southery NFK aged 76, and was buried in Southery Churchyard. The cause of his death was an infection of the heart and secondry peritonitis.
13. Isabella Maria GILDER [52], daughter of Rev Jonathan GILDER [1260] and Mary BRAZIER [1261], was baptised on 8 May 1774 in Aspenden Herts., died on 4 Jan 1867 in Maze Hill Hse. St Leonards On Sea Eng. aged 92, and was buried in Church In The Wood Hollington Nr St Leonards.
General Notes: Research Notes: Other Records
1. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Old Palace Yard Richmond SRY. Isabella is recorded as aged 55 not born SRY
2. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, Old Palace Yard Richmond SRY. Isabella is recorded as a wife aged 74 born Aspenden Herts
3. Census: England, 8 Apr 1861, Richmond Lodge Farnham SRY. Isabella is recorded as a wife aged 84 born Aspenden Hertfordshire.
4. Isabella Maria Gilder: Isabella married Dr George Charles JULIUS [51] on 14 Sep 1795 in St Leonards Shoreditch Church London. George was born on 6 Jun 1775 in Nicola Town St Kitts, was baptised on 12 Aug 1775 in Christ Church Nicola Town St Kitts, died on 6 Nov 1866 in Maze Hill Hse. St Leonards On Sea Eng. aged 91, and was buried in Church In The Wood Hollington Nr St Leonards.
14. William SMITH of Nottingham [2423], son of William SMITH [12757] and Hannah [12758], was born on 23 Jun 1769 and died on 3 May 1818 aged 48.
General Notes: William married Peggy HEATON [2424] on 24 Dec 1811 in Bulwell NTT. Peggy was born about 1778 in Middleton LAN.
Children from this marriage were:
7 i. Ellen Hannah SMITH [49] (born on 7 Jul 1813 in Nottingham - died on 21 Aug 1869 in The Old Palace Richmond SRY)
ii. Margaret Anne SMITH [12764] was born on 8 May 1815 and died on 29 Oct 1815.
15. Peggy HEATON [2424] was born about 1778 in Middleton LAN.
General Notes: Other Records
1. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, 9 Short Hill Nottingham. Peggy is recorded as a widow head of house aged 73 means of landed property born Middleton LAN
Peggy married William SMITH of Nottingham [2423] on 24 Dec 1811 in Bulwell NTT. William was born on 23 Jun 1769 and died on 3 May 1818 aged 48.
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George was awarded a silver medal by the Royal Humane Society, the inscription reads: Do IVLIVS VITAM O B RESTITVTAM 1796, Approximately - Dr Julius reviver of life
A Case of Suspension
A Life Restored
Addressed to the Treasurer.
Dear Sir,
It is with much pleafure that I communicate to you the following inftance of Refufcitation, by the ufe of the means reccommended by the Humane Society; and I hope it will encourage Practitioners to perfevere in their endeavours of reftoring Animation, when it has been fufpended even for a considerable time.
A woman in my neighbourhood endeavoured to put an end to her exiftence by hanging. - It was near half an hour before my arrival, and fhe was to all appearance dead. - I am happy to fay, that, by perfevering for fome time in the Refufcitative Procefs of the Society*, I had the in expreffible fatisfaction of reftoring Life to a defponding Woman.
I am, Dear Sir, Your Obliged,
George C Julius
Lamb's-Conduit St,
January 30th 1797."
Then follows a short poem in criticism of suicide. Perhaps signed AN? see image.
Ref: Annual Reports, Humane Society 1774-2005: LMA/4517/B/01. (Jill Christensen)
BARCLAY C.P.
Tuesday, 2 August 2011 2:49 a.m.
Royal Humane Society;
RE: Re Dr George Julius 1796
Dear Mr Fenn
How lovely to learn of a medal that has been retained in family hands for all these years! Your medal will have been struck in silver (the RHS did not introduce bronze medals until 1837) and, as Dick Wilkinson observes, it is normal to find medals of this period mounted behind watch glasses. . . . . .
The case books covering the period during which your medal was given unfortunately do not survive, but there is a good chance that an account of the case may have been published in the Society's 'Annual Report'. I wish you all the best with your research.
Kind regards
Craig Barclay.
The Humane Society started to give out honorary medals in 1776
Dick Wilkinson, Secretary of the Royal Humane Society advises on the "Refufcitative Procefs of the Society"
Our history suggests the following methods were used initially but most abandoned after the first 60 years.
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It is unrecorded what particular method George used!
Julius Jottings April 1900 No 2, mentions a massive pair of silver candlesticks given to Dr Julius senior by the King George IV and then at that time in the possession of Mr Arthur O Julius of Ham. They were surmounted by the Royal crest and coronet on one side and the Julius arms on the other. They are hall-marked Mathew Bolton Birmingham 1810
George was a partner to Sir David Dundas in a medical practice in Richmond SRY, adjoining Kew Palace in Kew Gardens, George III's favoured home.
Dundas was appointed Sergeant Surgeon to George III in 1792. He was Household Apothecary at Kew but not officially Apothecary to the King. He assisted at the post mortem on Princess Charlotte on 7 November 1817 and was Physician to the Duke of Kent from 1816 to 1817 and Surgeon to the Duke of Kent from 1818 to 1820.
As a result the ties of the practice with the Royal Household were strong and George Julius was to benefit
being appointed Apothecary to the Royal Household at Kew on 9 July 1812.
It is not known why King George presented these candlesticks, to George Julius.
Hall marked 1810.
It seems most likely the gift was from George IV, as George Julius only assumed his appointment at Kew in 1812.
Our only guide as to the reason for the gift, was a gift given to George Julius's son George Charles Jnr [781]by King William IV which was inscribed:
TO
GEORGE CHARLES JULIUS Jun'. M.D.
for his
kind attention and successful treatment
of
His Majesty's Grand-daughter
The daughter of the Lady A.K. Erskine.
"WILLIAM R."
September 18th 1833
This was a gift of a large silver urn see details on George Jnr's file including a fragment of a note from the King.
Edinburgh University Library.
24 October 1984.
George Julius of Somerset was a medical student here for three sessions although he did not graduate.
The years when he was a student and the classes for which he enrolled were as follows.
1792/3 Anatomy and Surgery Chemistry, Botany, Royal Infirmary.
1793/4 Theory and Practice of Medicine, Royal Infirmary.
1794/5 Anatomy and Surgery, Chemistry, Practice of Medicine, Materia Medica, Clinical Lectures, Obstetrics,
Dr J T D Hall
Sub Librarian.
Royal Archives.
Round Tower
Windsor Castle
22 October 1984.
Dear Madam,
Thank you for your letter of 11 October.
According to our records, George Charles Julius was appointed apothecary to the King's Household at Kew, in place of William Dundas who had previously held the appointment, on 9 July 1812.
He is still shown in this post in 1836 so he presumably held it through the reigns of King George III King George IV and King William IV.
As apothecary to the household at Kew he would have been responsible for attending all those in the king's service at Kew and providing them with medicine as required.
He does not appear to have held the appointment of "Apothecary to the Person" or "Physician to the King" at any time.
I am afraid we do not have any biographical details for Julius.
Yours very truly,
Elizabeth H Cuthbert
Deputy Registrar.
" This Vase was turned from a piece of the Yew Tree planted by Queen Elizabeth now standing in the Garden of Dr Julius of Richmond"
See the Wardrobe Court interiors 2019: Books section of this website.
Family lore has it that this childs drum (sans drum skin) belonged to a member of the Royal Family (at Kew ?).
The note attached "A Drum which belonged to George IV" A further note by Marie Louise Julius wife of Arthur Dudley Julius says "An ivory drum which belonged to George IV. Given to my Husbands Great Grandfather by William IV., whose physician he was at Richmond"
A possible scenario is that it was for one of George Charles younger children around 1830, when William IV ascended to the Throne.
RICHMOND LODGE/WRECCLESHAM GRANGE
Wrecclesham Grange is the large house situated in Beales Lane, alongside, and to the west of St Peter's Church. When first built it was known as Richmond Lodge, it then became Wrecclesham Grange and more recently it has been called Ashton Manor.
The first occupant of the building was Dr George Charles Julius. Dr Julius was the father of the Rev (Henry) Richard Julius, who was Vicar of Wrecclesham for 40 years, from 1846 to 1886. In the early years of the 19th Century Dr George had been a prominent doctor in the Richmond area. In 1812 he had been appointed as apothecary to the King's household at Kew, a post he held until 1836. During this time he served as one of the Royal Physicians to three Kings, George III, George IV and William IV. He had lived in Wardrobe Court, an outbuilding of the Royal Palace of Richmond. Not long after he had retired from his practice, in 1845, he decided to move to Farnham, where his son Richard had established himself as the popular and successful Vicar of Wrecclesham.
It is not known when the Grange was built but it does not appear in the Tithe Map of Surrey which was drawn in 1840. It is thought that its construction of the Grange was undertaken in the late 1950's. In 1854, Dr. Julius is listed in the Surrey Electoral Roll as still living in the Old Palace Yard, Richmond. However, by 1857 it shows that he was living in Wrecclesham. The 1861 Census records Dr George Julius, aged 85, living at Richmond Court, Wrecclesham, with his wife Isabella, aged 83, and his 63-year-old daughter Emily. It is envisaged that he had this house built for his retirement and that he had moved there in or around 1857. However, the move to Wrecclesham was to be temporary for in 1862 they moved to St Leonards. One of his granddaughters, Florence Stevens, in a handwritten diary (To the Village Born), says:
Grandpapa missed the life and the smooth pavements of a town so they once more moved to St Leonards where, at Maze Hill House, their days were ended.
That Richmond Lodge is the name given to the house, later called the Grange, is confirmed in the sales particulars that were issued at the time of this move which are more or less identical to similar documents published in 1931 when Wrecclesham Grange was sold.
In 1862 George Charles Julius and Isabella Maria Julius transferred the title to Richmond Lodge to Henry Cowlard. The new owners of the property did not live in the house and in October 1863 the title passed to Dr John Wilton and his wife Ellen. John Wilton was shown in the Electoral Roll as living in the Grange in 1864, however, in the 1880's Dr Wilton was a doctor, living in Sutton, with his wife Ellen and two daughters Eleanor and Ann. While living in Sutton in 1881 Eleanor was married to Arthur Llewellyn Wynne Roberts, who was to become the owner of the Grange when John Wilton died in 1909. In 1871 the Grange was occupied by two maiden ladies. Hester Fenwick, a widow aged 47 and her twin sister Jean Melville.
By 1881 the tenancy of the Grange had again changed hands. The occupant a wealthy Scottish landowner, Robert Buchanon Dunlop. The family home of the Buchanon Dunlop's was Drumhead at Cardross, Dunbartonshire. Drumhead House had been built by the Cameron Dunlop family in the early 18th Century. Robert and his wife Francis had two daughters. Robert Dunlop, who had served as a churchwarden at St Peter's Church, died in Wrecclesham in 1882, and was buried in the St Peter's Graveyard.
The next tenant of the Grange was the Rev Henry Richard Julius. In 1886 Henry Julius suffered ill health, thought to have been a stroke. After 40 years in the Parish he left his much-loved Vicarage, that had been a happy family home. Initially he did not move very far; in fact, he moved nearer the Church he had served so well for over 4 decades, and took up residence in the Grange, the house which had been built for his father, George, on his retirement some 30 years previously. Rev Julius was not a strong man at this time and it was in the Grange, in August 1886, that the 'elders' of the Parish gathered to present him with a testimonial gift. Yet again the Julius tenancy of the Grange was relatively short as four years later in 1890, Henry and his wife Mary moved to Redhill. Where he was to die two years later, in 1892.
From 1893 to 1909 Dr John Wilton is living in the Grange with his Niece and two servants. John Wilton was churchwarden at this time. He was to die in 1909, was buried in the St Peter's Cemetery. His estate was to pass to his son in law Arthur Llewellyn Wynne Roberts.
The ownership of the Grange since 1909 is less clear. It is believed it remained in the hands of the Buchanon Dunlop family until it was taken over by the Nursing Home. The Surrey Electoral Roll has records of many occupants but most of them were tenants. It is understood that it was not until the end of World War 1 before it was occupied by the Wrecclesham Grange Nursing Home who were the main occupant in the inter war years. Newspaper records show that the Grange was one of the principal maternity homes in the Farnham area and interestingly a significant number of the 'members' of the History Project were brought into this world in these pleasant surroundings.
I suspect that many of our 'members' will be able to recall some of this missing detail and that we will be able to enlarge upon the use of the premises in the 20th Century. The building is currently used as a Retirement Home under the name of Ashton Court.
The previous owner of the Grange had been Paul Fennel who now lives in the house that he has built behind the main building, which is reached from the lane running alongside the church. Paul sold the Grange in 1963 to the present owners, Ashton Manor Nursing Home, part of the Beritaz Care Group.
The outbuildings of the Grange are of interest. The buildings at the foot of the Beales Lane were in the early 20th Century the Grocer's shop run by Percival Elsmore. Next to it was a workshop which was occupied by automobile coach makers and engineers, Page and Hunt, who later became E.D. Abbotts. Page and Hunt at one time had ten workshops in and around Wrecclesham, for all the different processes, and this was one of them. More recently the workshop was used for car body repairs before its conversion to its present uses which combine residential and office accommodation.
The other outbuilding of interest was Rose Cottage, not part of the Grange, but closely involved as it used the entrance in the lane alongside the Church. Prior to the building of the Grange there was a small school building, Wrecclesham's first school. Rose Cottage was the Master's House. It remained after the opening of the school in School Hill. Margaret Wearing and her parents lived in Rose Cottage and they had a close association with the Nursing home as the nurses used Rose Cottage for their residential accommodation. Rose Cottage and the old-school building were sold in 1909 when the Wrecclesham School moved to Little Green Lane.
The Picture of the house, is from the sales particulars in 1931 when the house was sold for £3,850. The Gardens and Grounds then extended to 15 acres. Although some of the land has now been disposed of they are to this day attractive and extensive. The house itself has many splendid features which are described in the sales particulars which will be displayed on our notice boards.
Ref: Wrecclesham's significant houses - WordPress.com (wreccleshams-significant-houses1.pdf)
A correspondent who informs us of the death of Mrs Hunt of Church Road, in her 93rd year, says that her passing severs as a link with old Richmond and Kew. She was the granddaughter of Dr G C Julius, who resided at Wardrobe Court, the Old Palace, for nearly 40 years. Dr Julius was physician to George IV and William IV, and attended the Royal family when they were in residence at Kew Palace. A piece of putty used to be put in one of the windows in order to show the doctor whether he was wanted at the Palace or not. The old King George IV used to take an interest in this and if his carriage passed that of the doctors on his way to Kew he used sometimes to lean out of the window and shout "A piece of putty in the window today Doctor". Dr Julius was partner to St David Dundas, who resided at Queensbury House, Richmond. Mrs Hunt was born at Tudor Place The Green, Richmond, but lived nearly all her life before she married at Wardrobe Court, where her father Dr F G Julius, lived after the retirement from practice of her grandfather.
Unidentified paper clipping.
It is unclear what the note below refers to.
"With every kind of wish for your well being here and my highest aspirations for your eternal happiness hereafter
Believe me to be
your sincerely attached friend
Onslow"
This note from Onslow may have been to either George or his son Frederick ?
It may have referred to George's retirement to Wrecclesham SRY in 1855, close to Onslow's seat at Clandon Park SRY ?
Marriage Register St Leonard Shoreditch.
1795 Marriage Number 335.
George Julius of this parish bachelor and Isabel guilder of this parish spinster were married in church by banns this 14th day of September 1795 by me Joseph Rose Minister.
Signed George Julius Isabella Gilder.
In the presence of Sarah Jeffreys and George Limming (Limming could the A parish official as his signature appears frequently as a witness)
Ref: MS 7498/18
At their marriage Isabella was aged 21, George 20. They were married for 71 years.
JULIUS JOTTINGS, JANUARY 1900, No 1.
MARIA LOUISA BREWIN ISABELLA'S GRANDAUGHTER WRITES; "Granny" as she was fondly called by her devoted grandchildren, was gifted with a keen sense of humour, and had a fund of stories to which it was our great delight to listen.
JULIUS JOTTINGS. JANUARY, 1901. No. 4.
OUR FRONTISPIECE. Thanks to Miss E. K. Julius, of Hollowdene, Meadvale, Redhill, who kindly lent us the originals, from which we were able to have these two likenesses of Isabella reproduced, and Mrs. Arabella Parkinson (her eldest granddaughter) for the following :- When young she must have been lovely, with her rich, auburn hair, her blue eyes, her perfect figure, and her sweet voice, so low and musical. She, like her husband, was strictly temperate, her only drink, water.
She had all the qualities then thought the most desirable in her sex. A keeper at home, clever in all domestic matters, she regulated a large establishment, and her sphere of housekeeping extended over the stabling, where she always knew how much corn and hay were required. Even the drains came under her clever management. And yet she was so gentle and sweet, so full of sympathy, that it was to her the young ones brought their troubles, and her big boys would confess to her alone their various scrapes, both at school and on the river.
On Sunday her children and grandchildren used to gather round her, and she used to read and task to them. She often read "The Pilgrim's Progress" to them. We heard once that when in India she boldly caught hold of a large, dangerous snake, which she found in her daughter's (Arabella, afterwards Mrs. Geo. Quilter) cradle, and flung it out of the window.
Whilst Isabella was out driving one day in India, when she came upon a crowd of people. She told her coachman to draw up, and to her horror found it was the funeral pyre of a man, and his widow was going to be burnt alive with his dead body, a custom to which Government has for some years put a stop. When the poor woman felt the flames mounting around her she sprang up in agony, and Isabella beckoned to her; she scrambled on to the carriage, the coachman drove off like the wind, with the angry mob yelling behind, but the woman's life was saved.
Isabella was aged 93 at her death.
The Times, Saturday, Aug 08, 1829; pg. 3; Issue 13987; col A
Human Sacrifices In India. Letter By AN EAST INDIA PROPRIETOR.
Mr & Mrs Julius describe stopping Sati amongst Brahmins, at Arah in
1804, in a letter to the author in 1820.
Richmond,
February 25, 1820.
Mrs Julius, who resided at Arrah (about the year 1804) was informed that near her premises a funeral pile was erected, on which the body of a Brahman was placed, and that a multitude of people were conducting his widow to it. At that moment Mrs Trower, wife of the Collector, called in her carriage, and both agreed to attend the delivery of the wretched victim. They drove as fast as possible to the spot: as the carriage approached, the mob took to flight; but the pile was already in flames. In an agony of mind they walked round the pile. They perceived that the roof had fallen, but not on the body of the deceased, but was resting on the edge of the pile; and that the place prepared for the widow was unoccupied, for the poor creature, availing herself of the opportunity afforded by the confusion, had effected her escape! The ladies found out the hut to which she had fled, and gained admittance. Then they beheld the poor victim, about 20 years old, surrounded by four children, and her baby in her arms. Her eldest son, at some distance, crying. Her hair was very long, hanging down; and oil and ghee were dropping from it to the ground. Her head was covered with sandal dust, and her whole body was highly perfumed. Without the smallest reluctance she consented to accompany Mrs J. and Mrs D. to my house, with all her children. On her arrival, I discovered that her shoulders were very much burnt. On being questioned, she declared that her intended immolation was not a voluntary act, but the consequence of terror from the threads of the Brahmins, who had also given her a large quantities of opium and bang; and that for many hours previous to her arrival at the pile she was in a state of distraction and stupefaction. It appears that the Brahmins, seeing the carriage drive near, hastily threw down the roof, intending it to fall on the pile, and prevent the escape of the victim. But providentially they failed; it rested on its edge, and allowed the poor widow opportunity to fly. This poor woman remained some time with Mrs Trower, and then returned to her own village; but we never heard any subsequent account of her. P Julius.
Ref: Missionary Chronicle for March 1821 pg 124/5.
Deaths.
January 4th at Maze Hill, St Leonards, Isabella Maria, widow of George Charles Julius, Esq, aged 92 years.
Ref: Hastings and St Leonards Observer Tuesday, 15 January 1867
Julius Isabella Maria 16 February 1867
Letters of administration of the personal estate and effects of Isabella Maria Julius late of Maze Hill House St Leonards-on-Sea in the County of Sussex widow deceased who died 4 Jan 1867 at Maze Hill House aforesaid were granted 16 Feb 1867 at the Principal Registry to George Charles Julius of 39 Melville Rd in the city of Edinburgh M.D. the son and one of the Next of Kin of the said Deceased he having been first sworn.
Effects under L2000.
Ref: National Probate calendar.
Images of Isabella No's 4 and 5 are reproduced from Julius Jottings No 4 Jan 1901. They were at that time in the possession of Miss Edith Katherine Julius of Hollowdene, Meadvale, Redhill.
Images 1 of Isabella are from paintings in the ownership of Rosemary Julius 2004
John Hill Tree shows Isabella died 11 Jul 1867 aged 92 bur., Hollington SSX.
Photos of interest:
Marriage certificate 14 Sep 1795, St Leonards Shoreditch
Williams birth was on a Friday at two o'clock in the afternoon.
From the entries in Burkitt on the New Testament.
William Smith and Peggy Heaton married Bulwell on Tuesday Dec 24th 1811
From the entries in Burkitt on the New Testament.