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Robert LIVEING [427]
(1714-1785)
Sarah HEARN [428]
(Abt 1723-1772)
Thomas HARROLD [131]
(1726-1791)
Deborah BETTS [21861]
(1726-1809)
Commander Thomas LIVEING R N [230]
(1760-1836)
Harriet HARROLD [231]
(1762-1837)

Julia LIVEING [119]
(1787-1868)

 

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John AMBROSE [134]

Julia LIVEING [119]

  • Born: 8 Jun 1787, Harwich ESS
  • Christened: 12 Sep 1787, St Nicholas Harwich ESS
  • Marriage: John AMBROSE [134] on 26 Mar 1819 in Dover Court Harwich
  • Died: 14 Feb 1868, Copford ESS aged 80
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Harwich Marriages.
March 26
Wednesday last was married, by the Rev William Whinfield, Vicar of Ramsey, and Dovercourt cum Harwich, and domestic Chaplain to his Grace the Duke of Manchester, John Ambrose, Esq. of Copford, to Julia, eldest daughter of Thomas Liveing Esq.of Harwich.
Ref: Ipswich Journal Saturday, March 27, 1819.

Married
At Dovercourt, John Ambrose Esq. of Copford, Essex, to Miss Liveing daughter of Capt Thomas Liveing Commander of his Majesty's Packet Lady Nepean of Harwich.
Ref: Jacksons Oxford Journal 3 Apr 1819

1851 Census Essex, Lexden shows Julia Ambrose married wife of John Ambrose aged 60, living in Copford Parish ESS - Folio 435. Born Harwich.
Julia's birth date requires checking, no baptism around that date Harwich 2003 not thoroughly checked.

Liveing Archive 44a-c Lt5
Copford Dec 6, 1867
My dear Catherine
I thank you for your nice long letters and thankful I should be if I could answer them properly that my writing talents are gone that is if ever I had any. The dear Howards if Will could get anything to do which would bring him in 100 per year certain I am sure it would be better than going to farming for a small farmer must live hard and work hard to make ends meet in reality they are worse off than the common labourer I used to tell my poor husband if lived upon the profits of farming a workhouse would soon be his portion and John
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never makes his expenses of farming meet the profits not by 200 or more but he like it and has got his mother money to make up the deficiency if things would remain at their present price it would different but if there is a good crop of another year prices will go down as fast as they got up I can't think what makes them go so far off quite out of the way of all their friends and such an expensive journey if they want to see them but this remark I must ought not to make and therefore I hope you will forgive me. We have such a loss in our neighbourhood poor Mr Round of Birch Hall now lies dead - he died of stone a dreadful suffering hundreds.
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will miss him even I shall for he was my deputy landlord and wrote me such very kind letters and an excellent customer for bricks and land draining tiles he had 3 surgeons from London but he had gone too long having felt it coming for 3 years and never spoke of it. My poor brother Henry I am so sorry for him I fear he will feel it all days of his life I think it will be 6 months before he can do duly a gain what bad weather we have now blowing and raining we had 4 and 5 inches of snow but it is chiefly gone washed all away before tomorrow morning. What ignorant or careless people they must be to put the Stoves in Mr
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Mr Ingrams church so the first time they were used burnt the church down it's very vexatious affair the night before last at 12 o'clock just as got into my first sleep a man came under my window and called out fire fire get up I thought it was in our back kitchen I got out and called the maid and she went to the window and she ascertained where it was the Carpenters workshop two Gentleman went past at time in a gig so they stopped and called John up so they had plenty of water and plenty of help and soon put it out but had it happened on the Monday
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night all the places at the back must have gone probably riding stable also as it was I shaked so and feel so bad that I did not get over it all yesterday the Carpenters had a fire in the morning we suppose a spark must have smouldered and burst out. Thought I would write to you in fresh of the morning and sat down with intention but I've had in the whole day and now writing by candlelight
My love to around you
with kind love to yourself
believe me Aff yours
J Ambrose
I can't see pretty well for me in health but dreadfully lame
Noted: Mrs Ambrose to CM Liveing 6 Dec 1867 about Mr Howard's farming fire at Copford
Written on 4 half sheets both sides of one piece of paper

Julia Ambrose died 14 Feb 1868 her will was proved 9 Jun 1868.
Robert Liveing Fenn of Camberwell SRY was a trustee
Rev Henry Thomas Liveing of Bedfont MDX was a trustee
Mentions Dr Edward Liveing of & Mary Kate Liveing of Queen Anne St Cavendish Sq

Ambrose Julia 9 June 1868. The Will of Julia Ambrose late of Copford in the County of Essex Widow deceased who died 14 February 1868 at Copford aforesaid was proved at the Principal Registry by the oaths of the Rev Henry Thomas Liveing of Tansor in the County of Northampton Clerk the brother the Rev John Ambrose of Copford aforesaid Clerk the son and Edward Liveing of 52 Queen Anne Street Cavendish Sq in the County of Middlesex MD the nephew the executors. Effects under L6000
Ref: National Probate Calendar.

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No baptism was found for Julia in the Harwich registers.

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1. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Ward, 21 May 1808, Needham.
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Miss Julia Liveing
Harwich

Needham May 21.
My dear Julia,
The pleasure of sending a few lines by bearer was irresistible, as such I have taken up my pen to say we are all well, and I am anxiously anticipating the time of your Sister's coming to Needham, which I hope is not far distant, give my love to her and any time she thinks proper to fix will be agreeable to us. As you may suppose on Friday evening I was greatly surprised by, the appearance of the shadow, a shadow indeed and with out substance; and metaphorically continuing the subject, like a Star whose brilliancy be it ever so great, is nothing when compared to the bright resplendent moonbeams, playing on the surface of the water, or between the trees, on the Dovercourt road of a clear evening, the above comparison might very likely I think have been made by Harriet, had she been here, as she
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supposes the feminine gender, very applicable to some people. However though you may if still intimate, Mr J tell him, the conduct of the ghost has been a faithful copy of the original having evinced politeness in her behaviour, and Good breeding in her conversation - but a truce to jolking (sic) and to do her justice whilst walking Saturday and last evening, she did all in her power to amuse me by relating, what has haped (sic) since I left and amongst the rest I hear that the other Sunday you escaped to church with your mother-in-law Mrs Col arm in arm I am astonished that a Girl of your sensibility, should delight in sporting with the feelings of your fellow creatures, as you do, for supposing either Mr or Mrs W....d had passed you at the time don't you suppose they would have felt concerned on their son's account, the Idea naturally occurring to them if there was not some parshality (sic) for the son, you would not have been
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walking with the mother - though my opinion is come to the point, and W..d son ? the best chance of being the subject selected by your fickle fancy, for so I must term it a person having had the advantageous offers you have, in regard to personal charms, I do not think his very objectionable, and as to mental accomplishments they may be daily acquired and improved, particularly I would imagine if a man is fortunate enough to . . . . . with a companion, who is in a . . . . able to instruct him in those respects, and in regard to a future establishment, his views appear prosperous, if we may judge from the present state of things - you by uniting yourself to him would be likely to become a Captn Lady, well my dear S ? and I often talk, about you the night he supped at yours, you placed yourself beside him,SI says you looked quite well and happy - As my paper is nearly full and I dare say you have had a plenty of my nonsense, I will conclude urgi. . .
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ing you will make our united respects to your good Mother, and love to Harriet and little Henry - I hear Charles is at Harwich? Accept our best loves yourself and with an assurance that I do not feel much intimidated by the sight of the ghost and immesely (sic) wishing you may have patience to read this scrawl though I fear it is scarcely legible, for Mr C Howard and I have been talking nearly all the time I have been writing, I again subscribe myself your affectionate
E Ward



2. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Ward, 2 Apr 1810, Needham.
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In another hand "E Ward Needham April 2, 1810" Postmark Needham [78]

Miss Julia Liveing
Capt Liveing's
Harwich
Essex

Turn at Colchester

Needham April 2, 1810
My dear Julia,
By this time I was in hopes it would have been in my power to have informed you of the restoration of Liberty to my Brother, but as that is an event which now seems as far distant as when he visited you, I will no longer defer writing, I assure you it was nothing but that which has kept me so long silent, I was anxious to have communicated the intelligence to your Family as soon as he regained it, but poor fellow when that is likely to happen is impossible for us to determine. The deed of assignment has for some time been executed, but the signatures of 5 Creditors are still wanting, & we are fearful the three who live in Ipswich will not be prevailed upon to sign as they appear very resolute to the contrary. The Business as you saw by the newspaper is disposed of by probate Contract ? two people have this day began to appraise the Stock and Furniture, therefore it's pleasant that so far is settled without an Auction, if they could now but obtain their Freedom we should in a great degree be more comfortable, it is no use saying what might have been done for alas it is now too late. Samuel will I hope succeed better in future undertakings, it was his misfortune to
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being connected with a man whose disposition, and pursuits were so totally dissimilar to his own, that Confidence, Friendship, and Unanimity, which ought to have subsisted between them at least whilst their mutual Interests were concerned fled, & with them Comfort was banished from home, he to whom Hunting, & Drinking, were pleasures sought them daily, & the other who at last found his attention was of no avail, became indifferent also & in that case each sedulously endeavoured to shun the other, and so brought Ruin on themselves, & distress to their Parents and Friends. I do not wish or intend to exculpate my Brother from fault as doubtless there is much attached to him, but still I trust his Conscience, acquits him of many acts of Extravagance, Dissipation and Folly, that I am sure must accompany the reflections of his unfortunate partner, unfortunate I say, but I don't know whether he considers it so for he braves it in a way that is astonishing to us, perhaps he does not reflect but we are told "that even the greatest Libertine, has his serious moments" & if that is the case I think bitter must be the reflections of that Child, who knows that the instability of his conduct is the means of creating misery in mind of his Parent, and perhaps inevitable ruin in his Circumstances - for Mr S. . .d his father I am truly sorry, for he seems greatly affected it's impossible but he must have heard of the Character his son bears, besides a great deal he has himself witnessed, I doubt now before all is finished we shall have a sup
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prise? but I sincerely hope not. My parents have expressed great pleasure from the manner in which they have heard & know that Samuel is generally spoken of, he still remains much respected in Stowmarket, & many have sent to ? enquire for him, and wish him to go & see them poor fellow I wish he was able to go, but I think when he gets his Liberty he will great aversion to (going) but to have compassion on your . . . . .
Dear, I (J) will conclude this subject for possibility? you are more tired of reading, than I of writing, but as it is ever uppermost in my mind I could (sic) refrain mentioning it to you assuring myself my Confidence would not be abused. In the letter I wrote Mary Norris a week since, I mentioned the illness of my mother therefore I dare say she told you of it . . . . . was better but this morning not so . . . . it is a kind of intermtting nervous fever one day much better than another, Mr Abbott has no doubt but she will soon recover her usual health sincerely do I hope he is right but she looks very sadly. The cords ? we at last received safe & Mr Cape is shortly coming to Harwich when my mother will request him to settle with Mrs Logan.
The letter I was honoured with from Mary Norris by S ? contained a kind of . . . . . concerning Mr S . . . . .? & that in consequence of the Church undergoing a repair she should go to the Meeting House, she hoped I should not envy her, but I knew fine ? she should see ?. Then she directly went on, that another Regiment was come & very glad she was for now it would seem more lively poor
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girl she is glad enough I dare say; had it, not been for her and your Harriet reminding me of the Substance so much has my mind been occupied since my return home, that I have scarcely vouchsafed to think of his Gallantry, or the good advice I have lost by not giving Miss A. . . .s and opportunity of being my adviser, a person whose abilities were doubtlessly well adapted for the purpose, no self-interest whatever in the intention every now & then my brother is pleased, to talk about him, as if your mother should ask him whether my friends were informed of it but I don't mind him tis only joking; another thing he tells me shall you have a new mode of dressing your hair, which is very becoming though it was done only a few days previous to his leaving - my paper being nearly filled I must conclude - my Father and Mother and Brother unite with me in respectful remembrance to Capt and Mrs Liveing, kind love to Harriet, yourself and Brothers, not forgetting William when he returns my respects to enquiring friends, and wishing soon to hear from you I again subscribe myself your affectionate and obliged friend E Ward



3. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Ward, Jun 1810, Needham.
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In another hand "June 1810 fr E Ward" Postmark Needham M [78]

Miss Julia Liveing
Capt Liveing's
Harwich
Essex

Turn at Colchester

Needham June, 1810
My dear Julia,
Convinced as I now am of the indifferent state your sister's health has been in for this last fortnight, and the consequent anxiety arising to her friends therefrom, I have earlier than I intended I assure you taken up my pen for the purpose of giving every satisfaction in my power relative to Mr Abbott's opinion of her case - Sunday morning - agreeable to your good mother's request we applied and he gave his attendance, after conversing with Harriet some time he told her he had no doubt but her illness entirely proceeded from indigestion and that alone accounted for the bad state her mouth was frequently in and likewise the loss of appetite, headaches, and disposition to faint which she so repeatedly complained of, he desired her not to make herself uneasy as he had no doubt if she strictly adhered to his rules of her being soon greatly recovered, he tells her that until her habit of body is corrected and acquires a greater regularity than it at present possesses every little thing it that he prohibits, well at least retard her
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recovery or throw her back five days, so weak is the state of her stomach he wishes her to refrain from eating any kind of pye-crust, new bread, salt meats cake from wine and likewise cautions her against lacing or tying her clothes to tight either which he says is extremely pregudicid (sic) - He thinks it proper for her to eat a thin kind of meat sliced between her meals for meat dressed in the plain way is requisite and he does not care how often she eats it respecting her medicine by way of beginning she took nine pills on Monday since when to powders a day is the order, and they are certainly none of the pleasantest of medicinal compositions, but she takes them uncommonly well and it is but doing her justice to mention it - I do not suppose that I am authorised in saying anything as to the effect of her medicine but she has certainly appeared better both yesterday, and today - Monday she was very ill and so in fact she was Saturday night and Sunday apparently so faint and languid - however we greatly flatter ourselves that change of air united with Mr Abbott's advice will soon effect that which we all as well as your good parents most anxiously wish for the establishment
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of her health - she told Mr A that she was getting thinner he took her arm and said even now he thought she could afford to lose a little more
Give my love to your Mother and the above is precisely what the doctor said of Harriet to the best of my recollection without any deviation or duplicity in wishing to keep anything from her. Now a little musing? - I feel better than on Saturday we had a delightful passage to Ipswich about two hours as you may suppose I enjoyed it very much for the beauty of the scenery added to the novelty of the water was so sublime and so consonant to my feelings that I could not help experiencing a most exquisite pleasure - we drank seawater Mrs Towns ? and arrived at Needham about Eight o'clock and found all much as when we left but surprised at not seeing Billy - who we are in expectation will arrive this even but should that not be the case tell him Saturday next is the longest and we shall certainly expect him - if you're brother William is at home make our love to him and if he can pass away a few days in an inland county we shall be glad to see him - we have received two letters from John written in March at Madeira he was tolerably well and begged his remembrance to all Harwich friends - Needham is dull my paper is nearly filled it grows late
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the nosh? will soon be in and so I must conclude with the usual repetitions of good wishes reunited remembrances to your Father and Mother Brothers and Self - Harriet duty and love - Samuels's respects to Robert Wood and Samuel is working to much conclude
Yours affectionately
E Ward
Let me hear from you soon S teases me say you must excuse all.



4. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Ward, 4 Nov 1810, Needham.
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In another hand "E Ward Needham Nov 4, 1810" Postmark Needham M [78]

Miss Julia Liveing
Capt Liveing's
Harwich
Essex

Turn at Colchester

Needham Nov 4, 1810
My dear Julia,
The day being very wet, and no service at Chapel this afternoon, I have taken up my pen for the purpose of devoting half an hour to you in scribbling. I was agreeably surprised last Sunday morning whilst dressing to receive your letter and however paradoxical it may appear I was disappointed your not coming to the Fair, though I did not much expect you, well knowing how uncomfortable it must be to visitors as well as ourselves, our having such a concourse of nobody knows who, continually, backwards and forwards. As usual at that time, the weather was very wet and unpleasant. I engaged myself on the Monday Evening to a dance at Miss Beck's ?, but was prevented going in consequence of my Father being taken unwell with a Stomach complaint, which obliged him to leave his friends and go to bed early by Eight o'clock, I told Miss B I could not be with her party until half past nine as I was requested to be at Mr Steward's drawing,
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which I attended both nights but with no better success than last year, there was a great deal of company and several Miming ? Beaus, the first ever I stood with Mr Sheldrake, and two or three other acquaintances who really what I suppose they . . . . . . . . . . every body, and I was not altogether a silent observer, now and then I uttered a word or two just to let them know, I was not dumb ,- Miss B party did not break up till past five in the morning, I must say I was at first vexed not going but when I found the inconvenience it must attend with on account of my father's indisposition, I then like many others made a merit of necessity, and staid at home - Thursday I met a large card party a Mrs Breks, both the Miss Bs enquired for you and Harriet, but excepting the Monday evening it was the dullest fair ? I ever spent - you say little Henry has been ill, I am sorry for it, though ere this I hope he is recovered and your Sister to I trust is getting well. How could you for a moment my dear Girl suppose that our correspondence had ceased particularly as there has never (with my knowledge) been any previous coldness between us, the silence on my part I can easily account for I had an idea you were going to visit your friends at Dedham but when, I was uncertain or how long you would stay,
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and when last we parted you promised to come and see us in a short time, the period you could not fix but said you "Ellen, you may depend upon seeing me, I shall leave Harwich by Wherry and take the opportunity of Mrs Parker's cart, from Ipswich, as I wish for no preparation I shall come give you a look for a few days, when it best suits myself," as nearly as I can recollect them were your words and well you have proved them, a few days to remain would be the longest, but since then, according to your own confession, you staid a fortnight at Nackton; therefore I beg to know . . . . . writing would have been, . . . . . constant expectation of seeing . . . . . a pretty ? excuse indeed you Thought it was . . . .venient, because I did not write" Ah Julia such an excuse as that may serve some people but when I see you, I shall expect a more reasonable one. Samuel and myself both suppose you think our walks and woods are not so pleasant as yours, and if that is the case, the supposition is a just one for all here being very dull - even H promised my mother she certainly would come for a few days, when my mother asked her and pointed out the certainty of a conveyance by the Needham Fly give my love to her, and if her memory fails her mine remains good respecting that I am
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obliged to Miss Enefer for eapressing (sic) a wish to be at Harwich when I am there as a friend of yours, I have no doubt but I should have pleasure in cultivating an acquaintance. To Mr Foxlow my thanks are certainly doubly due, particularly as he is a man who so seldom mentions females, I never remember to have been in his company only the evening at your home last Christmas and then I was so little with him that I think he cannot be justified in passing an opinion of me like to many I doubt he accepts the judgement of others and passes it for his own by that means evading the trouble of observation himself, however let that be as it will - were you aware of the Lady he is partial too and did you joke him I mean one of your Harwich ladies I
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must now close paper is quite . . . . . fortunate . . . . . or half an hour constantly remind however I will patience and by adding to this and best wishes friends . . . . . and affectionate
P S remember
clude for my filled which I might perhaps . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the kind love to your self and of your sister Harriet ? E Ward . . . . .
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The receit (sic) of Ginger-bread for your mother, rub half lb of butter, into as much flour, then add half a lb sugar, half a lb of treacle, and two ozs of ginger, mix them well together with the addition of as much flour as you may afterwards think will make them sufficiently stiff for the oven. Adieu



5. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Ward, 8 Oct 1811, Needham.
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In another hand "E Ward Oct 8, 1811" Postmark Needham M [78]

Miss Liveing
King St
Harwich
Essex

Turn at Colchester
Believe me my dearest girl, though appearances are so much against me, that I have not forgotten neither am I unhappy, or ill, - no Julia you wrong me to suppose I could even forget a Family or any individual member of it, from whom I have at all times experienced the most attentive kindness but situated as I at present am, I trust great allowances will be made for my apparent neglect I say apparent because it really is so - the fortnight since I began a letter, for the purpose of saying how fearful I was that it would not be in my power to accept your kind invitation this Autumn, but at the persuasion of my Mother, and my own determination if possible to accomplish my wish, I deferred sending it but now I entirely relinquish - Michalmas that busy time, approaches so fast, that for the present to oblige my mother, friends, & self, I must remain at home, & after that period, a change is likely to ensue, from which I am fearful I shall not desire much advantage, as to the liberty, or
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convenience of going out when I please - you may be assured my dear, I am greatly disappointed I cannot perform my promise of visiting your friends, previous to an event taking place which will prevent my having that pleasure, for some few months to come - perhaps you'll smile, shake your head, & say then we shall never see you but give me leave to contradict you - in the Spring I anticipate the pleasure of spending a few days & shall I hope have a pleasing retrospect, in recounting the events of days, & weeks long since passed in each other's society - was there no other trouble and inconvenience attending my going to Harwich, for a few hours, than there is my brother Samuels, I wouldn't have been with you long ere this, & even now would gladly, much as I want to be at it, resign a few hours work, for the journey - I have been particularly requested to go & stay at Hitcham, but could not, I was unexpectedly detained at Brandon many days longer than I wished, which to me was very unpleasant, as the allotted time before my visit was expired & even then my Aunt kindly expressed a wish, that I had remained another fortnight - I was at Ipswich last week, called upon Mrs Downs, who informed me that your Mother & Harriet were daily expected home that the latter had been but indifferent, during her
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visit, which I was concerned to hear as she must I fear have been prevented the enjoyment and pleasure, expected from the journey, I did not write during her absence from home, as I was in expectation of seeing you that I might here how long, it would be before her return - but I particularly request you will make my kind love to her very shortly she will hear from me - I am sorry to hear of the malignant disorder which has made its appearance in Mr Hourolos ? family but sincerely hope it will not prove fatal, & earnestly wish your Dear Mother, and Sister, may have escaped any effect of it - your message in a former letter, I delivered to Mr Her . . . . . I have no doubt but he will avail himself of the invitation the first opportunity, I assure you he hopes to be as neighbourly as the distance will permit, he goes to Trimley on Friday, Miss Hunt, for a time keeps his house, & when she is a little settled she hopes alternately for yours, and Harriet's company, it will be charity she is quite a stranger, and knows no one - I don't know the distance from Nacton, to Trimley, but not more than 3 or 4 miles I should suppose, as such if you have opportunity whilst at your Friends perhaps you will go down for a day just to speak to them, then you'll hear Mrs Webb's address, if you wish to
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write to her - I think it is Brettenham near Bilderston Suffolk. I have not seen her since you were with me - Betsy Steward is very well, and often mentions you she was much pleased with her Harwich trip, I & she speaks with particular pleasure of the afternoon spent with you - since my return from Woolwich Mr Stuart has been very unwell, but I am happy to say he is now quite recovered and requests his respects to Ipswich Friends indeed he seldom writes without mentioning the name of your family - Time my dearest girl will not allow me to enter further upon any subject at present, our future correspondence will I hope be continued in future as a lasting proof of that friendship, which has so long existed between us, and which I trust the death of nature will alone divide, henceforth the letters from you, and your sister, I shall receive with anxious & lively pleasure, as a separation from my relatives will induce me more eagerly to wish for a correspond and with those I esteem my intimate friends - Adieu my dear remember me with Affectionate Respect to your good Father and Mother love to your Bros and Harriet to the latter I shall take the first opportunity of writing - remember me to the
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Logan's & Mr and Mrs Coe & any one who may enquire for me It isdesired to communicate our families respects to yours, and believe me dear Julia with the sincere friendship I have ever professed
yours truly
Ellen Ward
Half past Eleven PM



6. Letter to Julia: from M A Enefer, 16 Jun 1812, Nacton.
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In another hand "Fr Enifer at Nacton June 1812"

Miss Liveing
Capt Liveing
Harwich

My dear Julia
As I cannot make a sufficient apology for my neglect in not answering you before I must rely on your kindness to pardon me requesting you to be assured that my silence has not proceeded from a want of respect or attachment to your family whose kind attentions to me during my long visit I shall ever gratefully remember. We have been long expecting the pleasure of Capt Liveings company at Nacton indeed I fear you have not performed your promise of endeavouring to prevail on him to do so, but hope it will not be long before he does us that honour, we shall be happy to see Mr William Liveing and Charles together if convenient, if not, we must not be disappointed seeing them this summer, shall expect either you or Harriet with Capt and Mrs L the other with your brother, and my husband must not be forgot if Mr Edward can accompany either party it will be an additional pleasure to us; My Father of course informed you I was again rating?
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but you will know by this that I have not made so long a visit to Barham as I did Harwich, indeed I have been accused of having a Beau at the latter place, you can however acquit me of the charge - when you see Mrs Logan, Mrs Coe, or any of your Friends that we have the pleasure of knowing will thank you to make our best respects; tell Harriet (though I regret to inform her) that Miss Hayth has been for some time visiting at Bucklesham? and the dear Doctor is to accompany her home on Thursday; I have not heard when they are likely to be united; but hope your Sister will not break her heart; - remember me affectionately to her, and my dear husband, who I hope have not forgotten his engagement to me, he must forgive me if I am rather jealous of Miss S Macdonough, as I fear he gives her a great many love kisses: we are very much obliged to Capt and Mrs Liveing for some very fine Lobsters present our kind respects of them and believe me
Very truly and affectionately yours
M A Enefer
Nacton
June 16th 1812

We'll return the frail by Mrs Edwards

In a different hand "She died at the age of 24 poor thing"
This appears be Mary Ann Enefer b 1789 Nacton, buried 5 Dec 1813 Nacton, aged 24



7. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Stuart (nee Ward), 9 Jun 1813, 14 Charlotte Plc.
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In another hand "E Stewart 1813?"

Miss Liveing
Capt Liveing
King St
Harwich

June 9th 14 Charlotte place

It is My dearest Girl with the sincerest affection I once more resume my pen, to assure you of my welfare & thank you for the last two letters which have so long remained unanswered, however I shall not commence apologising for you kindly promise not to be offended with me, & attribute my silence to that, which really occasions it - "constant employment" with my little boy - though certainly I have lately, & in future anticipate more leisure, from his being out so much in the air which I take every opportunity of letting him have - your kindness My dear I trust will excuse the fond partiality of a mother when I tell you, he is a very sweet little fellow, he has not a long face like either Father or Mother; but a round fat face with Blue Eyes - in short to sum up his perfection he is quite Briming? - He is almost too heavy for me to nurse, & suckle, though in the latter he takes pretty good care he will not be neglected, for he has so much of it, that keeps me very thin
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much more so than even you saw me, but my health is very good & appearances I must not mind. I do not know whether all the Princes had so much of it, but I suppose so, & as he is to have the abilities of a Prince I dare say it is quite natural the child should be so eager for the breast - as Father, Mr S looks quite respectably I wish you could see him, but perhaps you will ere long as I have some idea of visiting Suffolk, but when, or anything about it, at present it is impossible for me to say I am now anxiously expecting to hear of Harriet's wedding (18 May 1813), which I judge has taken place I wrote to congratulate her on the approaching event, & sincerely do I wish her much happiness - when shall I have to express the same sentiments to you, on the same subject - I have heard a report of a partiality on Mr K side of the question, is it so? I wish it may be - no mention now of Mr C is he forgotten? has he found himself unworthy, I should like to hear how matters are still feeling a strong interest is what concerns Harwich friends - indeed any news from H is at all times acceptable - if you have an opportunity of writing by bearer - enquire for Dace Master of the Woolwich lighter, Mr S says probably
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the vessel will be off the shipyard, & continue a day or two - we understand G Graham is married - what is become of the Dukes are they still in H? - I was astonished to hear of William Norris & Miss Gibbon - I hope Charles is finally recovered from his indisposition poor fellow, why if you get him out & your Sister married, your family will be greatly reduced only little Henry whom by the by you never mention, & yourself - do let me hear about Mr F and Harriet I will not call him round face now, & when I see him shall shake hands with him, with pleasure & wish him joy that he has had courage to give the young man in the country, an example of marrying, for there were a great many of them, that I think would . . . . . wiser if they would marry, & content themselves? with domestic pleasures, rather than gadding about to see every diversion which happens near them, I wish I could hear my brother was inclined to matrimony, but I am afraid he will be an old bachelor till I received your last letter I was unacquainted with Mrs K Death, excepting a slight intimation I had that morning received from Mrs Batman in a letter, her children daughters, particularly must I am sure keenly feel the loss of such a mother - I am very sorry to hear of the nervous indisposition of your Mother but hope the Summer air will restore her probably the country air would be conducive, & a visit for a month to Mrs Fenn might effect the restoration too much to be wished for by her family; make my best respects to her, & likewise your father, in which I am joined by Mr S who also unites with me in love to yourself & Sister, when you see, or write to her, and remember us to your Brothers. I suppose William now thinks of matrimony, is he engaged to anyone? send us word if the Danish fleet yet remains without losing one of its number - my paper is nearly filled I must conclude - requesting you'll let me hear from you soon as you can, & promising another six months silence on my part, shall not occur - once more farewell My dear Girl & accept the best wishes of your sincere friend
Ellen Stuart
remember the address number 14 Charlotte Pl as your letters were directed seven instead of 14 Warwick St





8. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Stuart (nee Ward), 2 Apr 1815, Woolwich.
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In another hand "From Mrs Ellen Stewart Ap 1815"

Miss Liveing
Harwich

Woolwich April 2nd 1815

Yours My dear Julia of the 29th ult., I received about three hours since, from the hand of Mr D I was much surprised on my return from Chapel, on seeing that gentleman in the parlour, however a moment's recollection was sufficient to manifest of whom he brought tidings - he I assure you very promptly informed me of the welfare of my Harwich Friends - he would not be prevailed on to stay dinner but took a lunch, & during the time informed us of the different occurrences in Harwich particularly what related to Capt G Deane - Miss Hallet?, & his Sisters In the Ball Room - Mr H Deane being mayor & etc & Miss Mason & G Deane! - It appears impossible that should be a match - think of her five years back, & she was a little girl - then probably to insignificant & childlike for him to notice had he passed her in the street: had anyone then pointed her out as his future wife, I think he would have exclaimed at the improbability
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of it she being such a child - as for Miss L an officer is best suited for her, a life of indolence & pleasure is what she I should judge she is better calculated for, that the wife of such a man as Edward is likely to be - I am astonished Mrs L should allow of her going to the balls - in respect to your self my dear Girl, I have been some time wishing to hear from you particularly whether matters were settled between you & the bearer of this, I judge now the affair stands & soon for your sake I wish it may be brought to a crisis, as I have no doubt but it occasions you many anxious hours the first favourable opportunity let me as far as you think proper have the particulars - & of this be assured I should most certainly wish to address you again, as my friend Julia L for I think once the preliminaries are settled it will not be long ere he'll want to claim you as his wife. - I am doubtful whether I shall see you this summer, though Mr S kindly wishes me to use my own discretion respecting visiting Suffolk, I have a great wish understandably
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to see my friends but the journey is long & with a young family there are many considerations, attending travelling, & leaving home for a month. Mr D saw Ellen who is much grown & improved - William was in Powis Street - Harriet or Miss Stewart is still in Northamptonshire but I suppose will return shortly, as Mr A is much better though his health is still precarious Eliza & her father are both well & request their respects - I have subjoined a acrostic written by Miss Stewart to her beloved nephew & received by the last letter it bears the date of his birthday -
Acrostic November 23, 1814
. . . . . absent from thee little darling
. . . . . idea oft to the I rove
Singing around thee does my fancy stray,
Longing and wishing for thee day by day
In. . . . . cling months thy second year is come
And much I have wished for the, sweet one as they ere flowed
Much to I wish for thee in time to come
Saviour divine in thy Almighty care
Truth grace and mercy may my darling share
Mrs Knit? from things below in early days
A monument to make him of my grace
Ripened as time flies on for joys on a high
Thus happy may he live thus blessed die.
- As for my Needham friends I never see them & seldom hear from so I trust thee
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they are well Give our united respects to your good Father & Mother Also to William also sorry to hear of his present indisposition but hope it will soon be removed to you Mr S ends his kind love he says you are a good girl as when you write you give plenty of news, - Once again adeiu. My dear Julia, & that you may ever be happy & comfortable is the sincere & affectionate wish of
Ellen Stuart





9. Letter to Julia: from Susan Catherine Wallis, 27 Apr 1815, Cadogan Plc LND.
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In another hand "from Miss Susan Cath Wallis governess to the Broadwoods 29 Apr 1816" Postmark 12 O'Clock 29 Ap 1816.

Miss Liveing
King St
Harwich
Essex

Lyne Hall Nov 5 1815

Many apologies to you my dear Miss Liveing for thus importuning you about the Handkerchief but Mrs Broadwood having had the offer of some Pieces at three guineas a piece wishes me to ascertain form (sic) you whether or no you might be likely to procure any cheaper than that if not she would not trouble you to get any but keep those she has only that we should both feel ourselves greatly obliged with an answer by return of Post as the Handkerchiefs in Mrs Bds possession are only to be kept a day or two I once more beg leave to apologise for tormenting you in the way I have and hope for your forgiveness but it was solely to oblige Mrs Broadwood therefore if you will
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favour us with a line stating whether you are likely to procure any shortly under that price she will then be able to decide about keeping these she has time will hardly permit me to write legible I hope and trust this will (sic) yourself and family quite well I saw your worthy Brother last Sunday he was also quite well and looking extremely handsome told me you were all shocking correspondants for that he had written two months and had obtained no answer and commission me to give you a tremendous scolding for him now it follows for me to explain how this call came to be made well my dear it was in return for one I made him when in the city for the express purpose of ascertaining when he had heard from your lady ship therefore I hope you will not form any more conjectures on the subject I assure you
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from another quarter I have heard the highest opinion of him he is indefatigable in his studies and extremely deserving consequently Has many Friend Ashley Cooper is endeavouring to procure him an addressorship ? for which he is I understand reading very hard thus I believe he has very little time left for amusement or exercise well it is to be hoped such deserving young men will not go recognised for they are sure to be met . . . . . . . . . . another young man of the . . . . . Hospital not half so indefatigable . . . . . with us most Sundays from the Gentlemen I often hear . . . . . Worthy Brother but my dear Friend ere I close this hasty epistle be sure you particularly mention yourself when you write for I long to hear how you are and what? Has become of that vile little fellow has he the imprudent's still to live so near you after his abominable conduct towards you
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when I was last with Mrs Pugh to my great surprise found cousin James at home and the Brittanic now out of the Transport Service say nothing of this from me to Aunt Poale but give my kind love to them I also beg to be most kindly remembered to all your worthy family and hope you will accept a large share of the affection of your sincere Friend and wellwisher
Susan Cath Wallis
PS Pray do not . . . . . to add all the postage of my letter to the Hands Mrs B desires . . . . . to say . . . . .
16 Lower Cadogan Place
Sloane Street
PS if you send a parcel address it to 33
great Pulteney Street
Garden Square



10. Letter to Julia: from Susan Catherine Wallis, 5 Nov 1815, Lyne Hall SRY.
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In another hand "fr Miss S Cath Wallis Nov 7 1815" Postmark F 7 NO 1815 Dorking 28.

Miss Liveing
King St
Harwich
Essex

Lyne Hall Nov 5 1815

I think if I recollect aright my dear Friend I promised to write first after my return to Lyne but really so many things and circumstances have occurred to prevent me that pleasure that until now I assure you I have not had an opportunity I have been returned there two months and am once more left alone that is with all my children but Mr and Mrs Bd (Broadwood), are coming down next week for a few days after which they will return to Cadogan Place for the purpose of continuing their the winter and whither I should suppose I shall follow with my little pupils after Xmas which will be a pleasant change to us for a little while. I am hardly to tell you the truth quite got over the parting with my Friends or forgotten the vacation I passed so pleasantly and you will not be surprised at it could you see the retired situation and consider I am left alone and
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so responsible but time and my daily occupation will I hope soon mean all this off instead of dribbling on the past I must look forward to the future in hopes of . . .tressing such happy scenes again I told you I should request a time longer than my given vocation at Mrs Broadhead which she accordingly very kindly granted therefore the last week I passed in town during which time The Britannia came to Debtford (sic) and thereby I had an opportunity of seeing cousin James besides many other Friends by me accident which was very pleasant indeed but before I proceed any further pray let me enquire how all your worthy Family are as well as yourself and Mr & etc ? probably it is not Miss Liveing I am addressing now I am not certain I have searched the papers for that circumstance but have not yet found it however if I have made such a mistake it is entirely through ignorance and I hope you
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will take the earliest opportunity of setting me right Oh here is the supper just come in the idea of setting down all alone would I could hop over the way and bring you in to have me company for an hour or two but that pleasure is not to be enjoyed here so I may as well make up my mind to be reconciled to the situation This is an intolerable scramble? and really not worth postage but I am determined to finish it for the purpose of sending it by the housekeeper who is going to town although it is very late and I am very sleepy with all? which I hope you are well admit as some excuse for me pray when you see Uncle or Aunt Poale remember me kindly to them I hope the
former is better say I have heard but once from them since my return and then not of you but that I should much like when one writes to give me all the information in her powers on the others and in short all Harwich Friends but I must say you are very good in this respect for by
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these means you see of you both oftener which is a great gratification to me I assure you while I think of it pray is the Swedish Music arrived yet pray make my compliments to your good Brother and I am going to be so bold as to tell him that we have no delightful Instruments in Tune and these long winter evenings that I am so much alone I have plenty of time to Practice and indeed for one who so much alone as I am it is a pleasant way of purposing one's time I hope I shall not offend him in saying what I have but use your own judgement in repeating it again I hope soon to hear of your attendant or in the meantime I beg leave to subscribe myself your very sincere Friend
Susan Cathn Wallis
PS Pray present my kind regards to your worthy Family and all enquiring Friends ask Aunt Poale whether she expects a letter from me as may I expect the pleasure of one for remember the 5 November I wrote



11. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Stuart (nee Ward), 26 Jan 1818, Woolwich.
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In another hand "Jan 26 1818 fr Ellen Stewart "

Miss Liveing
Capt Liveing
Harwich
Essex

Woolwich Jan 26 1818

My dear Julia
I received with much pleasure yours of the 11th instant, am glad to hear you are all well and as you write in tolerable spirits I am inclined to think your mind is not filled with vain regrets, that another year has passed without adding you, to the list of matrons - I am happy to hear of William's success remember us kindly to him though I should think his bess'd ? must be an additional trouble if he continues with you - I suppose your Sister yet remains at Coddenham I heard from someone (Susan Cope I believe) that she had rooms at Mrs Reeves but whether the farm is let, or they have finally left it I am ignorant; you complain of not seeing my Brothers, I do not see them, and when I hear I am not
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indebted for much information, just as they please - sorry with my disposition I should be sorry to be dependent on either Brothers or Sisters. The more we mire? with life and hold communications with different persons we find that friendships formed in early life soon pass away, and even that ardent affection possessed by Brothers and Sisters in childhood, is followed by careless indifference, and Jealousies which marred the happiness, once their pride - speaking individually I believe myself once, to have greatly had the confidence of my Brothers, but absence has destroyed much of that I am certain - I feel myself much obliged by your communication correspondence, and what I feel I would wish to express - as soon as you have an opportunity, should be glad to hear from you again I did not know you had any personal acquaintances
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with Mrs Jackson, late Miss Webb, I have been in company with her, you mention her being uncomfortable I do not doubt if she is destitute of society having been always accustomed to a great deal - I should think hers an unsuitable match, I know her husband - she is a woman of no common understanding, she has associated much with those who situation in life was far above her own, I should consider her marriage the result of . . .olicy? & desperation rather than love - I have under . . . . . to be a greatly disappointed woman in the object of her early affections This day week I was taken suddenly unwell & miscarried I think owing to weakness at this time I am not very well my appetite is not good, previous to last week I sometimes fainted Three or four times in a week, which I doubt not was very injurious - Mr Stuart unites with me in kind remembrance
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to your good Father & mother, Brothers, the Logans and all enquiring friends, our dear Children are well, Miss E Stuart and her Father desire their remembrance, Harriet is in London, I cannot boast much of her health as she has lately been very indifferent - Adieu dear Girl and sincerely wishing your preservation in this as in past years conclude yours most affectionately
Ellen Stuart



12. Letter to Julia: from Ellen Stuart (nee Ward), 11 Jan 1819, 14 Charlotte Place Woolwich.
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In another hand "fr Mrs Ellen Stewart Jan 11 1819" Postmark Woolwich JA 11 1819

Miss Liveing
Capt Liveing
Harwich
Essex

14 Charlotte Plc Jan 11 1819

My dear Friend
I acknowledge with pleasure the arrival of your last kind letter dated December 3 & would have answered before had my health & strength permitted it, the day previous to you writing I was confined with another boy, a remarkably fine child & for which I suffered much very much, weeks before he was born I was extensively unwell, so much so I was scarcely in a state to be left two hours without occasioning anxiety to my friends until present I have had excellent gettings up, but this time I have not been so favoured, I have had to encounter the pain of a bad breast in addition to other great weaknesses, I think without hesitation I may assert I have not enjoyed health three days succeeding each other since last February - however with the blessing of God I look forward to the ensuing spring as a time when I may again be in position
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of that comfort I have so long been deprived of - Ah my Friend the pleasure of becoming a mother is considerably alloyed to many, by severe & trying afflictions, but not to dwell on a subject which have a tendency to awaken in the mind a great? sense of the mutability of human enjoyment I moved? to congratulate you, on the change which appears likely to take place in your destiny, most sincerely do I hope the married life will be productive with happiness & comfort we all wish & feel entitled to expect, when we become wives - & in exchanging the parental roof for that of a husband, I trust it will be only felt in the difference which exists between filial affection & real conjugal affection, the latter where really enjoyed is the situation most to be prefered I well know you have experienced the indulgence of very tender parents, & in all respects a comfortable home, that I do sincerely hope the man made choice of is worthy your regard, & the change of your future welfare, for although much depends on yourself, much more depends upon him, you tell me his character will stand the test of enquiry I hope it will, & that your friends have put it to the test - it gives me much pleasure your pecuniary prospects being so good - it is a mutual wish of both Mr S & myself that you could
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spend a little time with us before we have the pleasure of calling you Mrs Ambrose, bless me what a different name to what we have been accustomed to - I should like much to see & hear what some of the Harwich wise ones, have to say upon the subject, the circumstances of your becoming acquainted with each other was somewhat . . . . . with respect to his personal appearance I hope I shall one day, have an opportunity to judge for myself though probably the day of meeting may be very remote - to Harwich & your family I shall ever feel attached, & though my friend Julia may not be there to receive & welcome . . . . should feel much inclined on . . . . . to spend a few hours we . . . . . . . . . . - & talk of those who are absent My kind respects to them, I shall think much of them when I know a certain event is about to take place, & as you have thought me worthy your confidence in the present instance, let me yet have another proof, when the time is fixed, & thought began & written two lines a day, let it not be concluded till the last, that you may just say in the "short space of such time etc etc" - & though the pleasures & cares of a wife will engross much of your thoughts, &
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time, I still hope as old friends will not be forgotten & that our correspondence though not so frequent will still continue constant, ill health must plead my excuse for months passed - the success of your Brothers gives me pleasure, but as you justly remark the misfortunes of your sister must be a considerable alloy - I am sorry to hear of the indisposition of Mr Logan, request you will remember me to them - you mentioned having recently seen my Mother, that is more than I can boast, not having seen one of my own family since the time I was last at Harwich, but I say to you what I would not to everyone, that I will not again ask my brothers if they never again visit me - the last letter from Samuel written at the time of my being confined, mentioned his intention of coming: just as he likes, if he comes all very well, & if not, let him visit those whose company he prefers - enough of that on proper consideration being much better adapted for such matters. My dear children are all well & the family in Powis Street tolerably so, frequently
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mention you, & request at all times when I write to be remembered. Mr S unites with me in kind remembrance to you, with every attendant good wish. And assuring you I shall ever feel an anxious desire to seek of your welfare, as that of an old & esteemed friend, I subscribe myself your truly affectionate
Ellen Stuart
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Monday Morn
We last night drank success to the union in Elder-berry wine, Mr S desires his love & hoped you will not always expect after matrimony
To yourself Nectar
And feed on Ambrosial sweets

13. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Mascots Copford ESS. Julia is recorded as aged 48 farmer born Essex



14. Letter to Julia: from Sir G Harnage 2nd Bart of Belswardyne SAL, 14 Mar 1843, Cambridge.
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In another hand "Sir G Harnages letter March 14th 1843" Postmark Cambridge MR15 1843.

Mrs Ambrose
Copford
near Colchester
Essex

Cambridge March 14/43

My dear Mrs Ambrose
Thank you that I do from my very heart for thinking of me in this your day of tryal, believe me my dear friend you neither wasted your ink, your paper or your time, with every deep and sorrowful feeling must you have wrote it with every deep and sorrowful feeling have I and yet continue to read it, I have had my days of bitter lamentation and such days may yet remain by me, but if ever I had one of the deepest regret for a departed soul this the very day, yet a day of heavenly rejoicing to Angels to behold another added to their numbers, yes indeed my dear good friend your Brothers life may fully warrant you in believing so far as a poor Mortal Soul is capable of judging that such now is, and that from henceforth as one of the Heavenly host will forever rejoice at the acceptance of each by theirs so well as our universal God thro' the intervention of his blessed Son, and now in an earthly point of view large indeed is the family he has left behind him, yet larger in comparably so his blessing, which he has bequeathed unto them, in his having from their very youth urged them to seek God's blessing, for which in his latter hours on this earth he assured he met with more then an Earthly reward to more then think to know that if he had any cause or expectation of himself reaching heaven, he would surely be shortly joined by one dearest Child, yes whom he knew
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could not remain much longer then himself in this world, heavenly the idea to him tho' as the bitterest anguish to all others around her bed. Unspeakably grievous must be his loss to his poor dear widow and children, yes to not any longer hear his exhortations in behalf of their souls, yet blessed are they to be able to benefit by their recollections of them. Fervently do I think of their dear daughter Fanny when you see I beg you take her hands most cordially in yours for me tell her I silently think of her and our Mutual God that he would as at this moment raise her up to this world again if such would not operate against her eternal happiness hereafter, tell her you will shortly write me concerning her. I particularly remark what you have written is concerning your dear Son John made the scene he has been called upon to witness and to yet continue so to do prove a blessing to him. Assure your Reverend Brother of my more than warm feeling for him at this day, but indeed all your Brothers and Sister must deeply feel the loss of one whom by his ever affectionate conduct entwined himself so much around their hearts - and deeply must your own dear good husband feel his loss, yes I well recollect his cheerful countenance at all seasons when he saw your dear brother drive up to your door - I can assure you Lady H is much grieved for your poor brother and your dearest Niece. Believe me with the sentiments I have as thus expressed, sentiments which are truly in motion around my head believe me Pray my dear Mrs Ambrose, your faithful your affectionate friend - George Harnage
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you may assure your brother Charles next time I go to town I will take the earliest opportunity of calling upon him - and thankful should I be to meet you both -
I will hope that bitter scene your Uncle Harold has been doomed to see will work an earthly benefit try make by his combiniry justice with generosity -
again, I ask shake your dearest niece most fervently by her both hands for me, now ten minutes to 8 o'clock, and I earnestly implore the smile of our Gracious Almighty upon her -
Little could I think when writing to you some few days Since that ere you received it, you would have previously written to me the said intelligence for helforwhich I again most sincerely thank you my dear friend,
I beg you write me very soon of your dearest Fanny -
George Harnage 1792-1866 was 2nd Bt a Commander in the Royal Navy
(The Harnage Baronetcy, of Belswardyne in the County of Shropshire, was a title in the Baronetage of the United Kingdom. It was created on 28 July 1821 for George Harnage, a Captain in the Royal Navy. Born George Blackman, he was the son of John Lucie Blackman, a London merchant and the member of an old London and West Indies family, and his wife Mary, who after his death married Admiral Edmund Nagle. Mary was the daughter of Sir Henry Harnage, of Belswardyne, Shropshire. In 1821, on his elevation to the peerage, George Blackman assumed the surname of Harnage in lieu of his patronymic so that he could inherit the ancestral Harnage home, Belleswardine House in Shropshire. The Harnages were an old Shropshire family and had been settled at Belswardyne since 1542. The title became extinct on the death of the third Baronet in 1888.)

15. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, London Turnpike Rd Copford. Julia is recorded as a wife aged 60 born Harwich



16. Letter to Julia: from Sir G Harnage 2nd Bart of Belswardyne SAL, 28 Dec 1853, Belswardyne near Shrewsbury.
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Below is not claimed to be a transcription mearly a stab at understanding what appears to a rather incoherent communication

Belswardyne near Shrewsbury

My dear Mrs Ambrose, indeed my yet in recollection most kind landlord and landlady - think not because you have not heard from me for news about a period say perhaps some years since you heard from me that I have not thought of you both that I have and often times day after day and not only of you both but the Rev Bishop and the Lord Chancellor that are to be - oh yes and perhaps as often have I wished myself again at your ever most cheerful fireside - that you all full may be in the . . . . . of your usual good health is my dear friend my very . . . . . prayers - would that I could repeat the same from this my domicile, but not so, my poor life as you may remember was . . . . . a much invalid but . . . . . . especially so for some few years past indeed in the past 18 months very ill and . . . . . two months entirely confined to her bed, so weak as scarcely able to turn herself, and with a violent cough, high number her several complaints I cannot but . . . . . the disgrace of the heart and lungs feeling somewhat better one day all back again the next

I feel afraid you would both be glad to take us by the hand again and certain it is I should by all your hands however many you may now have, yes it will be with a . . . . . grasp when I take them, O give good and worthy husband I do hope all may be well with him, and that each Saturday noon you have his . . . . . bags, and his money bag always ready to give him, and if both he much have ample occasion at this day, and his rents say my old home, and your yet new house - and pleasure grounds in with which I trust you have . . . . . - and how my lord Bishop his dear and . . . . . Suf Bishop and all the little Bishops, and how the Lord Chancellor, is he get . . . . .and of how many little Chancellors - do write me all particularly of them both at also of you to good Brothers the one in the national debt office and of your Rev Brother a visit to whom Good fellow I have not yet got in company with you - my kindest wishes to both - and . . . . . Mr . . . . . the most worthy Rector of Stanway whenever you may have the opportunity . . . . . how Mr Harrison of Copford - but I dare say you both sometimes think of the - of my old house - and how good Martha, how many little Martha's under 100 I hope - and my dear good Mrs Ambrose write and tell me all about your - of your dear good husband and ever believe me as I have ever been truly - friend G Harnage

How the Rev Mr story? My kindest remembrance to him
I am much thankful pray we have most excellent medical advice either or about one . . . . . and which is otherwise most . . . . . as further past 12 months and more he has been obliged to come almost every day - she has some her old ladies generally by her bedside each day to hear their complaints and I dare say never bothered in . . . . . a long stay, indeed I am offten . . . . . yes you may remember how she used to trudge about then when we were . . . . . I shall so that there far my dear friend you see my dearest cannot be now happy to me, but of then I wish you both and all your . . . . . but I have other and past anxieties to content with . . . . . truly so my son left Cambridge University without taking his degree, oh how I remember you talking of Cambridge University, I will say no more - and now some little of this property which is but a trust property - indeed of its extent it, I have before told you happen's it then . . . . . to have a two thirds of it is in one farm, say of 430 acres which I . . . . . grass ending 25 March 1855 to a tenant out of . . . . . who has almost now since given me the greatest anxiety, permitted much

And truly has done not anything and . . . . . - gave me to suppose he would always be a good farmer giving it his every attention and improvement, to promote which I let him have it at a most reasonable rent say for 338 pounds tithe per that is I pray a . . . . . - he came from Swans. . . . . near Dartford, Kent, a neighbourhood I expect you both are in no way acquainted with, his name is Talbr. . . . and as I am told a nephew of the late Alderman Harmer. In truth my dear Mrs Ambrose he just . . . . . the greatest anxiety in every way, and would that he was to leave me as tomorrow,, indeed I could tell you . . . . . very much - where I at your side, and that I hope to be when next I go to London to which place I have been but one since I last saw you, and that was last August when I was called thereto a poor brother now no more - then availed myself of the opportunity to run down to Bradwell for some five days, and was one of those days I may say or perhaps to you when the day turned out very rainy I went no further than Coggeshall, but I repeat whilst on my last visit to Mr Brunswick I will please by up all you safe and most hospitable and cheerful . . . . . and for the night so that my dear friend we may have a . . . . . chat if God permits me to have

A very heavy fall of snow this yesterday - hand post since - winter marrd

George Harnage 1792-1866 was 2nd Bt a Commander in the Royal Navy.

17. Census: England, 8 Apr 1861, Mascots & Fullers Farm Copford ESS. Julia is recorded as head of house a widow aged 73 farmer of 355 acres employing 23 men and 8 boys born Harwich



18. Letter by Julia: to her Sister-in-law Catherine Liveing, 6 Dec 1867, Copford ESS.
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Copford Dec 6, 1867
My dear Catherine
I thank you for your nice long letters and thankful I should be if I could answer them properly that my writing talents are gone that is if ever I had any. The dear Howards if Will could get anything to do which would bring him in 100 per year certain I am sure it would be better than going to farming for a small farmer must live hard and work hard to make ends meet in reality they are worse off than the common labourer I used to tell my poor husband if lived upon the profits of farming a workhouse would soon be his portion and John
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never makes his expenses of farming meet the profits not by 200 or more but he like it and has got his mother money to make up the deficiency if things would remain at their present price it would different but if there is a good crop of another year prices will go down as fast as they got up I can't think what makes them go so far off quite out of the way of all their friends and such an expensive journey if they want to see them but this remark I must ought not to make and therefore I hope you will forgive me. We have such a loss in our neighbourhood poor Mr Round of Birch Hall now lies dead - he died of stone a dreadful suffering hundreds.
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will miss him even I shall for he was my deputy landlord and wrote me such very kind letters and an excellent customer for bricks and land draining tiles he had 3 surgeons from London but he had gone too long having felt it coming for 3 years and never spoke of it. My poor brother Henry I am so sorry for him I fear he will feel it all days of his life I think it will be 6 months before he can do duly a gain what bad weather we have now blowing and raining we had 4 and 5 inches of snow but it is chiefly gone washed all away before tomorrow morning. What ignorant or careless people they must be to put the Stoves in Mr
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Mr Ingrams church so the first time they were used burnt the church down it's very vexatious affair the night before last at 12 o'clock just as got into my first sleep a man came under my window and called out fire fire get up I thought it was in our back kitchen I got out and called the maid and she went to the window and she ascertained where it was the Carpenters workshop two Gentleman went past at time in a gig so they stopped and called John up so they had plenty of water and plenty of help and soon put it out but had it happened on the Monday
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night all the places at the back must have gone probably riding stable also as it was I shaked so and feel so bad that I did not get over it all yesterday the Carpenters had a fire in the morning we suppose a spark must have smouldered and burst out. Thought I would write to you in fresh of the morning and sat down with intention but I've had in the whole day and now writing by candlelight
My love to around you
with kind love to yourself
believe me Aff yours
J Ambrose
I can't see pretty well for me in health but dreadfully lame
Noted: Mrs Ambrose to CM Liveing 6 Dec 1867 about Mr Howard's farming fire at Copford
Written on 4 half sheets both sides of one piece of paper


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Julia married John AMBROSE [134] [MRIN: 35], son of William Davis AMBROSE [4440] and Charlotte GRIMWOOD [19048], on 26 Mar 1819 in Dover Court Harwich. (John AMBROSE [134] was born in Copford ESS, christened on 2 Jun 1789 in Copford ESS, died on 26 Feb 1859 and was buried on 7 Mar 1859 in St Michael Copford ESS.)


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