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Commander Thomas LIVEING R N [230]
Harriet HARROLD [231]
George DOWNING [96]
Mary ALSTON [91]
Dr Edward LIVEING M.R.C.S. [98]
(Abt 1795-1843)
Catherine Mary DOWNING [97]

Dr Robert LIVEING M.D. [101]


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1. Adelaide Mary Dorothea HAWKER [1554]

Dr Robert LIVEING M.D. [101]

  • Born: 30 Mar 1834
  • Christened: 1 May 1834, Nayland SFK
  • Marriage (1): Adelaide Mary Dorothea HAWKER [1554] on 15 Aug 1866 in Blendworth Horndean HAM
  • Died: 22 Feb 1919 aged 84

bullet  General Notes:

Robert Liveing.
b. 30 Mar 1834 d. 24 Feb 1919 MA MD Cantab FRCP (1872)
Christs College, Cambridge, with a scholarship in 1852 and graduated in the mathematical tripos in 1856. He obtained his medical education at Kings College, London, where he won a Warneford scholarship, and at Paris, proceeding to the Cambridge M.B. degree in 1861. After holding two house appointments at Kings College Hospital in 1861-62, he became lecturer on anatomy and physiology at the Middlesex Hospital. He served on the staff of the latter as assistant physician (1866-72), physician (1872-76) and physician to the skin department (1879-88), and was made consulting physician to the skin department on retiring. Liveing delivered the Goulstonian Lectures in 1873, and wrote a Handbook on Diseases of the Skin in 1887. He examined both for the Royal College of Physicians and for Cambridge University. In 1888 he was elected to a fellowship
at Kings College, London. Travelling and gardening were his main recreations and he was a vice-president of the Alpine Club. He married Adelaide, daughter of Admiral Edward Hawker, and had a son and a daughter. He was a brother of Edward
Liveing, Registrar of the Royal College of Physicians.
Lyle, 81. Who was Who 1916-28, 635. (Munks Roll of the R C P. Volume IV, page 204)

Liveing, Robert. Adm pens at Christ's, April 29, 1852. (3rd) s of Edward, MRCS. b March 30, 1834 at Nayland, Suffolk. School, private. Matric Michs 1852; Scholar, 1855; BA 1856; MA 1860; MB 1861; MD 1865. At Kings College Hospital and at Paris. MRCP 1866; FRCP 1872. Fellow of King's College, London. House Physician, Kings College Hospital. Lecturer on anatomy and physician to the Middlesex Hospital. Gulstonian Lectures, 1873. Specialist in skin diseases. Vice Presedent Alpine club, 1869 and 1870. Author, Handbook on Diseases of the Skin, etc. Died February 21, 1919, in London. Brother of George (1845) and Edward (1854).
Ref: Venn: Alumini Cantabrigienses II iv

At a Congregation to day the following degrees were conferred:
M. D. Robert Liveing, of Christ's College.
Ref: Ipswich Journal 15th October 1864

Robert was a physican & dermatologist.

Robert Liveing FRCP (1834\endash 1919) was an English physician and pioneer of dermatology.
Robert Liveing matriculated in 1852 at Christ's College, Cambridge, graduating there BA in 1856, MA in 1860, MB in 1861, and MD in 1865. He received his medical education at King's College, London and at Paris, before receiving his MB (Medicinae Baccalaureus) in 1861 from Cambridge. He qualified MRCP in 1866.[1] In 1861\endash 1862 he held two house appointments (i.e. as assistant physician) at King's College Hospital before joining the staff of Middlesex Hospital, Fitzrovia, London. At Middlesex Hospital he was lecturer on anatomy and physiology from 1862 to 1866, assistant physician from 1866 to 1872, and physician from 1872 to 1876. In 1876 he resigned there as physician (presumably to devote more time to his specialty of dermatology). At Middlesex Hospital he was physician to the skin department from 1879 to 1888, and retired in 1888 to become consulting physician to the skin department.
In 1872 Liveing was elected FRCP. In 1873 he delivered the Goulstonian Lectures on Elephantiasis Gręcorum, or, True Leprosy. His Handbook on skin diseases was a standard text of dermatology in the 1880s and 1890s.
According to the dermatologist Henry Renwick Vickers (1911\endash 1993), the first four appointments of dermatologists to teaching hospitals in the UK were: Sir William Jenner in 1859, Tilbury Fox in 1860, Robert Liveing in 1879, and Sir Malcolm Morris in 1882.
Liveing was a member of the Athenaeum Club and vice-president of the Alpine Club in 1869 and 1870.

Marriage Ref Sep quarter 1866 Catherington 2c 223 BDM

The Middlesex Hospital
Medical College.
The Medical Officers and Lecturers request me on of your attendance at the opening of the Classes on Friday, October 1.
The Introductory Address will be delivered by Dr Robert Liveing, at 3 o'clock p.m., after which the prices of war ordered at the end of the last Winter and Summer Sessions will be distributed.
Ref: Red Book.

London Saturday October 2.
Yesterday the introductory lectures at the opening of the session 1869-70 were delivered at several of the medical schools in the metropolis. . . . . . At Middlesex Hospital, Dr Robert Liveing. . . . . .
Ref: extracted from The Daily News 2 October 1869.

New Works.
Notes on the Treatment of Skin Diseases.
By Robert Liveing M. D., Demonstrator on Diseases of the Skin, and Senior Assistant Physician, Middlesex Hospital. Second Edition, with additions. 18mo 2s 6p.
Ref: The Examiner 11 November 1871.

New Work by Dr Robert Liveing.
Now ready, in crown 8vo. cloth, price 4s 6p.,
ELEPHANTIASIS GRAECORUM, or true leprosy; being the Goulstonian Lectures for 1873, revised and enlarged. By Robert Liveing, M. A. and M. D.Cantab., FRCP Lond., Physician to the Middlesex Hospital.
London: Longmans and Co., Paternoster Row.
Ref: Pall Mall Gazette 10 July 1873.

Liveing Robert. 11 Manchester Sq W.
Business Directory of London 1884

1886 Robert is registered as a shareholder in the Gt Western Railway

Royal Botanic Society of London.
The 49th annual general meeting of the society was held yesterday . . . . .
Of eight members of council retiring, six were re-elected the new members being Dr Robert Liveing, and Professor Sir Joseph Lister, Bart., F.R.S.
Ref: extracted from The Daily News 11 August 1888.

Thursday November 22 1888 pg. 3 col. f
To The Editor of The Times.
"Sir - Archdeacon Wright's letter is likely to cause needless harm. That leprosy is inoculable I do not doubt. He says however "leprosy can be conveyed by inoculation - a fact that in itself goes goes far to prove that the malady is contagious" I hope Archdeacon Wright will excuse me for saying that it does not go far to prove anything of the kind. Cowpox and syphilia are highly inoculable diseases, but not in the least contagious. There is at present no evidence to show that leprosy is contagious in the ordinary sense of the word".
I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
Robert Liveing M.D.
November 19th.

The Doctors and Sir Morell McKenzie.
Hubbub in the "British Medical"
Robert is reported as a signatory, along with a long list of Knight's and worthies, of a memorial to the President and Council of the British Medical Association.
They were voicing an objection to the publication in the British Medical Journal of confidential treatment information concerning the Emperor Frederick, a patient of Sir Morell McKenzie.
Ref: extracted from the Pall Mall Gazette 24 November 1888.

LIVEING, Robert (1834-1919)
Details: LIVEING, Robert, AM and MD Cantab; Consulting Physician to the Skin Department, Middlesex Hospital; born Nayland, Suffolk, 30 March 1834; son of Edward Liveing, MRCS; married Adelaide (died 1906), daughter of Adm. Edward Hawker; one son one daughter.
Education: Christ's Coll., Cambridge (Scholar). Math. Hons 1856.
Work: Fellow of King's Coll. London; formerly Lecturer on Anatomy and Physician to Middlesex Hospital; Gulstonian Lecturer, 1873; Vice-President Alpine Club, 1869 and 1870.
Publications: Handbook on Diseases of the Skin; Notes on the Treatment of Skin Diseases; Lectures on Leprosy.
Recreations: travelling, gardening.
Address: 11 Manchester Square, London W.
Clubs: Alpine.
Died: 22 February 1919
Ref: Know UK CD - Colin Fenn

The Will of Robert Liveing of 11 Manchester Sq MDX M.D. who died 22 Feb 1919 was proved to Charles Hawker Liveing Lt Col RA, Katherine Edith Napier (wife of Archibald Scott Napier) and Mabel Weston Liveing
(wife of Charles Hawker Liveing) at
L54,669 14s 10d

Alumni Cantabrigiensis puts his death at 21 Feb 1919.


bullet  Other Records

1. Robert Liveing: Letters to his brother Edward, 1841 & 29 May no Year, Nayland & Bishop Stortford.
Liveing Archive 30c LT3
my dear Ned
I thank you for the little book you sent me yesterday I have not played with George Beardwell since I
Page 2
had the measles. I have been out walking with my sisters several times and found some primroses and wood anemones. Please to tell George that Sarah Anne will be sure to sow the Indian corn.
We all send our love to you both.
I am your
affectionate brother
Robert Liveing

Written below in an adult hand.
Dear George
I did send your black handkerchief & one for Ned both in his box. .

Mast Edward Liveing
The Rev R Moseley's
St Clement's

Chester Postmark AP 1 1841 Ipswich Postmark AP 2 1841

Other notes in the address panel.
This - is and in during - and for how long as long as we have need,
protection, Very fine indeed
Seek ye. This is this is . . . . . said
Neatly written Bob

Liveing Archive IMG 2381-2382.

Bishops Stortford
May 29
Dear Ned
I have an idea that you told me that one could get a small Lathe for L6 or L7 at a place where you got one for George - if so would you mind ordering one to be sent down here - as I want to give it to William Howard. He has a good place for one and I know would like it - This seems a comfortable house - William Howard is at Cambridge - and is then going on to Tansor.
Your affectionate brother
R Liveing
No year.

2. Census: England, 7 Jun 1841, Bures St Nayland SFK. Robert is described as aged 7 born SFK

3. Census: England, 30 Mar 1851, 14 The Green Camberwell Dulwich SRY. Robert is recorded as a nephew (Head of house Harriet Fenn) aged 17 unmarried no occupation born Nayland SFK

4. Census: England, 8 Apr 1861, Thorington St Stoke by Nayland SFK. Robert is described as a son unmarried aged 27 M A Cantab born Nayland SFK

5. Robert Liveing: To his brother Edward, 21 Mar c1862, Cambridge.
Liveing Archive: Image Letter 33. CD 24 Oct 2010

Christ College
March 21st (c1862)
Dear Ned
I am rather in the dumps myself (several things bothering me) so that I am not in a condition either to advise or console just now but I shall see you on Saturday or Sunday when we can have a good talk. Don't worry yourself more than you can help, seeing that it does no good; you can but do your best & leave the rest to fortune.
I want you to bring down a box of long leds (sic) for my pencil. Also a tenon saw and pair of pincers (not pliers) from Buck's as I often want them up here and cannot get any that I can depend upon, (that is if you can). Your affect brother
R Liveing.
PS we can dodge some thing between us
Ned is Edward Liveing born 1832

6. Robert Liveing: To his brother Edward, 1 Jun c1863, Cambridge.
Liveing Archive: Image Letter 34.

Christ College
June 1st. (c1863)
Dear Ned
I have not done at all well in the examination, but I do not know where I stand yet, I am afraid that I shall not get a scholarship.
Will you write to me & tell me how you are, and whether you will be able to receive me on Saturday next. And also were you thinking of going
to --
Calverly has got a University prize for Latin verses.
I remain ever your very affect brother
Robert Liveing

7. Census: England, 2 Apr 1871, 11 Manchester Sq, St Marylebone LND. Robert was described as married aged 38 head of house Physician MD born Nayland SFK also in the house were servants:
Elizabeth Furber aged 49
Kate Dean aged 21
Elizabeth Dyer aged 18

8. Census: England, 3 Apr 1881, 11 Manchester Sq, St Marylebone LND. Robert was described as head of the family aged 47 Physician born Nayland SFK
Also living in the house:
A.M.D. Liveing wife aged 49, born Paris (B Sub.) France.
H.A. Liveing daughter aged 11 born London MDX, scholar.
Charles H Liveing son aged 9 born London MDX, scholar.
Sarah Mitchell married aged 65 cook.
Elizabeth Howe single aged 28 parlor maid.
Marie L Giovinni single aged 26 born Switzerland parlor maid.
Sarah Mapp single aged 23 housemaid.

Image 1881 G Jerrard Courtesy of the Wellcome Trust

9. Census: England, 31 Mar 1901, St Marylebone LND. Robert was described as head of house aged 67 born Nayland SFK

10. Census: England, 2 Apr 1911, 11 Manchester Sq St Marylebone MDX. Robert is recorded as head of a 14 room house aged 77 a widower a retired doctor of medicine born Nayland SFK. Robert was alone in the house apart from 3 servants.

11. Dr Robert Liveing: Address to the Middlesex Hospital Medical College & signature, Cir 1880.
The Middlesex Hospital pictured 1830, was in Mortimer St London W1


Robert married Adelaide Mary Dorothea HAWKER [1554] [MRIN: 505], daughter of Admiral Edward HAWKER R N [1555] and Johanna Naomi POORE [14738], on 15 Aug 1866 in Blendworth Horndean HAM. (Adelaide Mary Dorothea HAWKER [1554] was born on 3 Jan 1832 in Paris France. and died on 17 Jan 1906 in St Marylebone LND.)

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